Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[Liquid Knight]

I just got an interesting email from eBay.

First of all they thank everyone for our efforts.



If we report the ringing kit listings under the government documents and licenses section as well as or instead of the "other criminal" section...

https://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/government-...

...they will consider review it more meticulously.

http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/questions/ho...



We'll see.

copyright eBay I asked and obtained permission to share the image for guidance purposes.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TRIUMPH-SPITFIRE-1973-V...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-escort-mk2-v5c-mem...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Defender-Log-Book/19235...

Those three have been reported under the new guidelines. Theses three the old way.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/escort-mk1-2-door-v5c-v...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MORRIS-MINOR-1969-V5C-L...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-VIVARO-2900-2-0...a8AAOSwA3dYRwrS

I'll be checking to see if they get removed, how quickly and what method worked quickest.

Should be fun.

Thank you to everyone who has signed the petition. Don't forget to share around social media and other forums.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[Liquid Knight]

Forty eight hours later and they're all there.

[Liquid Knight]

message to eBay said:

Good evening.

As a follow up to your suggestion I chose six of the several hundred unlawful listings on eBay. I reported three as facilitating crime and three as government documents.

None were removed, three are still running, two ended and one has been sold.

This Morris Minor...

https://www.facebook.com/jane.fanner/posts/1827593...

...was stolen recently and thanks to V5C and VIN tags being sold on your site the owner will probably never see it again.

If that car or any other has a new identity on it purchased by one of the thousands fenced through your site you are instigating the facilitation by allowing these illegal sales to continue.

Do you have a press office I can contact so when I make my report they can get a quote or official statement from your organisation please?

All the best LK

Could be worth a try.

[AndyTurbo]

Just reported these

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2...

[bungz]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-640d-M-Sport-Coupe-...

And another from same user

[iSore]

bungz said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-640d-M-Sport-Coupe-...

And another from same user

Forget your Escorts etc - that's blatant 'I'm going to steal a car and ring it'.

I'd be reporting that at your local police station.

[Liquid Knight]

Here's a good one.



1981-1983 Mk1 Fiat Panda registered as a 1990 Mk2 Panda CLX

Passed the MOT less than a month ago.

Even left hand drive it's worth a lot more with the age correct registration. I think this has been imported and ringed to avoid DVLA hassle.

Authorities aware.

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Landrover-Defender-90-4...

Anyone other than a car thief willing to pay £1,200 for a bit of paper?



https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[lowdrag]

tomsugden said:

It also looks as if the sunroof may have disappeared.

Like Austin did with the very first Mini? You want that banned too? Much of this thread can disappear once the new MOT and registration rules come through, assuming the recommended path is taken.

[RHVW]

Is there a genuine reason for anyone to buy / sell a VIN plate and V5 doc?

Maybe I am being stupid.....

[InitialDave]

RHVW said:

Is there a genuine reason for anyone to buy / sell a VIN plate and V5 doc?

Maybe I am being stupid.....

Not really. Though you could argue that replicating the car afresh around it is ultimately harmless, on the basis that a serious enough restoration swerves rapidly toward a ship of Theseus scenario anyway.

But the chances of someone doing that, compared to such a thing being used to launder the identity of a stolen car? Probably quite low.

My standpoint is that as long as there is something left of the original car to restore, it should be allowed, as it's not for the government to dictate the viability of a restoration, but selling the identity alone is taking the piss a bit.

[Liquid Knight]

RHVW said:

Is there a genuine reason for anyone to buy / sell a VIN plate and V5 doc?

Maybe I am being stupid.....

No. The V5C is the property of the DVLA and has to be returned to them when the vehicle is disposed of. Not only is that part of the Vehicle Licensing and Registration Act but it is also theft.

[GinG15]

Ford Based special named Albar Jet
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-based-special/3025...

Allbar Jet are VW aircooled based vencles...built 1978 or later.....

here we see a vehicle built in the 90ies /2000s with a V5c from an Albar, which had a Donor reg from a 1967 VW

PGC 802E

✓ Taxed
Tax due:
01 June 2018

Incorrect tax status?
✓ MOT
Expires:
15 November 2018


Vehicle make: ALBAR JET
Date of first registration: March 1967
Year of manufacture: 1967
Cylinder capacity (cc): 2792 cc
CO₂Emissions: Not available
Fuel type: PETROL
Export marker: No
Vehicle status: Tax not due
Vehicle colour: GREEN
Vehicle type approval: Not available
Wheelplan: 2-AXLE-RIGID BODY
Revenue weight: Not available

[lol64]

Petition signed, I hope you get a LOT more ph members signing it.

[Liquid Knight]

lol64 said:

Petition signed, I hope you get a LOT more ph members signing it.

Thank you. Be sure to share it around other forums and social media.

[Zooks]

Hopefully stop someone getting their classic escort nicked

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCORT-MK1-1300-GT...

[Fastpedeller]

Zooks said:

Hopefully stop someone getting their classic escort nicked

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCORT-MK1-1300-GT...

Only 2 local owners. Could be comical if it wasn't (potentially) so serious!

[spyder dryver]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk2-rs-2000/11267824854...

From the auction...

...please note this is not sold as a rining kit was a very very low mileage car so if you have a rs 2000 that has been to the mood and back this is a grand way of making it into a low mileage car.....what you see in the second picture is what you will receive X2 number plates X2 vin tags thanks for ready

[InitialDave]

spyder dryver said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk2-rs-2000/11267824854...

From the auction...

...please note this is not sold as a ringing kit was a very very low mileage car so if you have a rs 2000 that has been to the mood and back this is a grand way of making it into a low mileage car.....what you see in the second picture is what you will receive X2 number plates X2 vin tags thanks for ready

[Liquid Knight]

spyder dryver said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mk2-rs-2000/11267824854...

From the auction...

...please note this is not sold as a rining kit was a very very low mileage car so if you have a rs 2000 that has been to the mood and back this is a grand way of making it into a low mileage car.....what you see in the second picture is what you will receive X2 number plates X2 vin tags thanks for ready

Lincolnshire Police Aware.