Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[anotherswifty]

original thread RS Turbo items listed again.
Reported to eBay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-ford-escort-rs-tur...

[Liquid Knight]

Seller Reply said:

Hi . I am selling this as memorabilia only . But yes certainly if someone buys it to put on a car then I will help to find out if it your friends car. Thanks .

eBay message said:

You do know the log book is the property of the DVLA and by selling it you are committing theft?

[Liquid Knight]

sellers reply said:

No . There are 7000 logbook listed on eBay I just saw them and listed some old ones I had

eBay message said:

eBay are as aware they are breaking the law as you are. Basically they are acting as a fence.

While it's making money for them they aren't going to put a stop to it.

Because you are not selling a document on its own even though that isn't yours to sell in the first place. You are including the VIN plates so you are selling Ringing Kits.

You know exactly what you are selling, who is likely to buy and why. As far as I am concerned you are as guilty as the thieving scum who have either taken a car already or will steal one to order after they buy your Ringing Kit.

I have passed your other listing on the the RS Owners Club and details including screen grabs have been passed on to the Police should you decide to remove or try to delete these illegal listings.

Edited by Liquid Knight on Monday 5th February 15:34

[Liquid Knight]

Ford RS special for some new thread followers.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-ford-escort-rs-tur...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/for-escort-rs1600i-log-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1971-FORD-ESCORT-MK1-RS...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-mk1-mexico-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Series-1-Rs-Turbo-ID-Lo...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-ESCORT-RS-2000-MEX...

Non-RS

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-escort-mk2-v5c-mem...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/escort-mk1-2-door-v5c-v...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-FIESTA-MKI-957cc-3...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-MK2-V5-Log-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-CORTINA-ESTATE-XL-...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FORD-CAPRI-SALOON-1973-...

Each one of these could be used to obtain a new V5C and those sold without VIN plates used to buy/obtain replacement ones. Every listing like these can mean someone has their car, their pride and joy taken from them. All of these listings are unlawful and have been reported to eBay.

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

That is why we need to put a stop to it.

[Liquid Knight]

eBay still haven't removed this...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-ford-escort-rs-tur...

...even though I have emailed this link to them with it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/2556465875/permali...

[InitialDave]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Rover-Metro-GTI-sp...

[Liquid Knight]

InitialDave said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1994-Rover-Metro-GTI-sp...

I emailed eBay about this as it is a complete ringing kit including laser etched windows. Still hasn't been removed.

Here's a good clean example of a four door, right hand drive, Mk2, Escort 1.3L originally registered in Huddersfield.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152904128446

[SiH]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MG-MIDGET-1275-V5C-1967...
MG Midget anyone?

[Liquid Knight]

Here's a 1980's (1978-86) Mk3 Capri with some kit car stuff registered as a 1970 1600 GT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222853191851

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

[Fastpedeller]

Liquid Knight said:

Here's a 1980's (1978-86) Mk3 Capri with some kit car stuff registered as a 1970 1600 GT

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222853191851

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/204247

Wow - Haven't seen a Javelin for a while. It had some merit I guess, but looking like an ugly Capri maybe wasn't a great idea. Definitely looks to be incorrectly registered.

[breamster]

Have ebay stopped reacting to these?

I've reported the following ringing kit three time and it is still for sale!


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CLASSIC-FORD-COSWORTH-V...

and this one...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Classic-Mini-Cooper-V5C...

[InitialDave]

Another Cossie V5:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/253500352050

[AlexRS2782]

205 GTI - D630 UDP - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-gti-logbook...

Looks like it's been off the road and / or scrapped a very long time ago based on the last info on the .gov checker.

[Liquid Knight]

Remember...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/282572104314

...it's the chassis number not the body number that is retained.

This is a radically altered chassis, series body and registered as an Austin so place your bets how legitimate any of the parts are.

For £30,000 it's not worth the risk of having it seized and destroyed.

[Al Murphy]

Is this in the spirit of this thread?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-350z-Log-book-V5...

I think it seems to be fishier than a fishy thing.

Al

[TooLateForAName]

Al Murphy said:

Is this in the spirit of this thread?

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-350z-Log-book-V5...

I think it seems to be fishier than a fishy thing.

Al

Yep
Anyone buying a 350z with these details is probably getting a ringer
WX54 ZFK
Z33-005086

[AlexRS2782]

It's pretty pointless reporting these to eBay anymore as they tend to just leave the listings up now.

Not sure how, but a guy on a Ford Facebook page managed to contact someone from eBay's customer service about the legality of allowing these listings to run. The person who replied suggested that the listings were perfectly legal as long as they were listed as "Memorabilia" for collecting purposes.

Expect to see a flood of V5's & ID tags being listed as Memorabilia from now on then

[Liquid Knight]

Why bother at all eh?

[ClaphamGT3]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Mk1-Mexico-...

Reported

[Liquid Knight]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/V5-Ford-Sierra-Cosworth...



Just to remind everyone how to report these items to eBay...

Ringing Kit report...



Government property report...



...than you to eBay for allowing me to use their images and trademarks under "fair usage".