Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

[Fastpedeller]

Looks quite a nice car, but still registered as an MGB GT limits it's value to spare parts only - a shame.

[jeff666]

So how do you feel about this then ?

Registered as a Ferrari coupe, it's clearly a Datsun based rebody, has lost its original engine, gearbox, and if you look at the pics on the auction site it has had the front chassis legs cut away along with the original strut towers to fit the engine and front suspension.

Will the new owner be in for a shock come next MOT ? as it is not what it is registered as, it does have a current MOT but surely would need an IVA due to the amount of mods.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-GTO-Replica-Ferrari...

[A1VDY]

jeff666 said:

So how do you feel about this then ?

Registered as a Ferrari coupe, it's clearly a Datsun based rebody, has lost its original engine, gearbox, and if you look at the pics on the auction site it has had the front chassis legs cut away along with the original strut towers to fit the engine and front suspension.

Will the new owner be in for a shock come next MOT ? as it is not what it is registered as, it does have a current MOT but surely would need an IVA due to the amount of mods.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-GTO-Replica-Ferrari...

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

[jeff666]

A1VDY said:

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

No disputing it's not the real deal,

It is a rebodied Datsun but they have used the ID from the engine to register it, I thought the ID of a vehicle should come from the chassis.

[A1VDY]

jeff666 said:

A1VDY said:

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

No disputing it's not the real deal,

It is a rebodied Datsun but they have used the ID from the engine to register it, I thought the ID of a vehicle should come from the chassis.

Youre right, the ID should come from the chassis. There's some hooky goings on with that.
Worth the sum of its parts only.

[Olivergt]

A1VDY said:

jeff666 said:

A1VDY said:

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

No disputing it's not the real deal,

It is a rebodied Datsun but they have used the ID from the engine to register it, I thought the ID of a vehicle should come from the chassis.

Youre right, the ID should come from the chassis. There's some hooky goings on with that.
Worth the sum of its parts only.

So I suppose the question is, where is the chassis for that Ferrari engine number?

The other thing is, if anyone has looked at the full set of photos, the underneath of this car is atrocious, for something that was supposedly resprayed 300 miles ago, the sills are completed covered in st underneath, almost lime the respray went to the bottom of the side and not underneath. A complete Mutton dressed as lamb and I don't know why anyone with 30-40k to spend would buy this, it doesn't look usable for anything.

[jeff666]

Olivergt said:

So I suppose the question is, where is the chassis for that Ferrari engine number?

The other thing is, if anyone has looked at the full set of photos, the underneath of this car is atrocious, for something that was supposedly resprayed 300 miles ago, the sills are completed covered in st underneath, almost lime the respray went to the bottom of the side and not underneath. A complete Mutton dressed as lamb and I don't know why anyone with 30-40k to spend would buy this, it doesn't look usable for anything.

I guess they bought a rusted out or damaged 400i for the engine,

And yes I did look at the pics of the underneath, as you say not been done to the highest standard, somebody I know is really interested in the car, he has emailed the seller who mentioned it had been MOT'd for the last four years with no problems.

They want just over 50K for it, not a risk I would be prepared to take personally.

[Olivergt]

jeff666 said:

Olivergt said:

So I suppose the question is, where is the chassis for that Ferrari engine number?

The other thing is, if anyone has looked at the full set of photos, the underneath of this car is atrocious, for something that was supposedly resprayed 300 miles ago, the sills are completed covered in st underneath, almost lime the respray went to the bottom of the side and not underneath. A complete Mutton dressed as lamb and I don't know why anyone with 30-40k to spend would buy this, it doesn't look usable for anything.

I guess they bought a rusted out or damaged 400i for the engine,

And yes I did look at the pics of the underneath, as you say not been done to the highest standard, somebody I know is really interested in the car, he has emailed the seller who mentioned it had been MOT'd for the last four years with no problems.

They want just over 50K for it, not a risk I would be prepared to take personally.

If they did buy a damaged 400i for the engine, why not just be honest about it?

For the price, I would expect a fairly comprehensive build log to show what has been done.

I'm not in anyway in the market for anything like that, but if I was I would be running a mile after looking at the pictures, they don't present the vehicle in a very good light.

I've just noticed, there is a fking great hole in the exhaust!!!

Edited by Olivergt on Tuesday 22 September 11:09

[Porsche guy]

Olivergt said:

I've just noticed, there is a fking great hole in the exhaust!!!

Strewth!!

[Dr Interceptor]

Olivergt said:

they don't present the vehicle in a very good light.

They don't at all. Current owner purchased in 2005, and by the looks of it, that car has had 15 years of use and not much love.

Rear end of sills starting to corrode
Grille damaged
Seals around windows perishing
Hole in exhaust
Dash cracked
All suspension looking very tired
Seriously rusty brake discs

[AlexRS2782]

Another 205 GTI that appears to have been used as a rally car reshell a couple of decades back but was never declared seeing as one pic shows he has at least 2 variants of the V5 from when they were reissued over the years.

H163 SUY

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Peugeot-205-GTI-1600-Lo...

[imagineifyeswill]

A1VDY said:

jeff666 said:

So how do you feel about this then ?

Registered as a Ferrari coupe, it's clearly a Datsun based rebody, has lost its original engine, gearbox, and if you look at the pics on the auction site it has had the front chassis legs cut away along with the original strut towers to fit the engine and front suspension.

Will the new owner be in for a shock come next MOT ? as it is not what it is registered as, it does have a current MOT but surely would need an IVA due to the amount of mods.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-GTO-Replica-Ferrari...

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

I agree with everything said but the MOT shouldnt be a problem as they have a V5 for it registered as a Ferrari so it will come up on the system exactly as the vehicle its purporting to be.

[jeff666]

imagineifyeswill said:

A1VDY said:

jeff666 said:

So how do you feel about this then ?

Registered as a Ferrari coupe, it's clearly a Datsun based rebody, has lost its original engine, gearbox, and if you look at the pics on the auction site it has had the front chassis legs cut away along with the original strut towers to fit the engine and front suspension.

Will the new owner be in for a shock come next MOT ? as it is not what it is registered as, it does have a current MOT but surely would need an IVA due to the amount of mods.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-GTO-Replica-Ferrari...

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

I agree with everything said but the MOT shouldnt be a problem as they have a V5 for it registered as a Ferrari so it will come up on the system exactly as the vehicle its purporting to be.

Well it sold for £55,500

The people who run the auction had to remove a lot of comments in the bidding section mostly questioning the whole registration issue surrounding the car.

Hopefully the new owner will find a MOT station who doesn't know the difference between a Datsun and a Ferrari

[Jackowaco623]

Hi there im a new member on here, just came across this on the mighty flebay:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/133524550987

The description reads as follows:

"Mini Italian Job Shell With V5 And Old Mots,. Shell wants a lot of work, or use the id for a basic mini, to make it worth 7k or 8k for the Italian job. So Iv got the logbook, old mots and vin plate. Rare being a Italian job!!!! If you don’t want the shell you can leave it. Make your own mind up. Cash on collection!! No PayPal. If sold pick up within 3days after auction ends. No messers."

I've reported it a few days ago but Jack $h!t is being done as usual

[GinG15]

jeff666 said:

imagineifyeswill said:

A1VDY said:

jeff666 said:

So how do you feel about this then ?

Registered as a Ferrari coupe, it's clearly a Datsun based rebody, has lost its original engine, gearbox, and if you look at the pics on the auction site it has had the front chassis legs cut away along with the original strut towers to fit the engine and front suspension.

Will the new owner be in for a shock come next MOT ? as it is not what it is registered as, it does have a current MOT but surely would need an IVA due to the amount of mods.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/250-GTO-Replica-Ferrari...

'Restored'... not possible, it's neither Ferrari or Datsun.
Ridiculous asking price for a cut & shut kit car. Apart from those that fake their lives with watches/clothes ect it's just rubbish, it's just not the real deal..

I agree with everything said but the MOT shouldnt be a problem as they have a V5 for it registered as a Ferrari so it will come up on the system exactly as the vehicle its purporting to be.

Well it sold for £55,500

The people who run the auction had to remove a lot of comments in the bidding section mostly questioning the whole registration issue surrounding the car.

Hopefully the new owner will find a MOT station who doesn't know the difference between a Datsun and a Ferrari

i never got it:

how is it possible that any MOT tester ot testing station is closing their eyes in terms of wrongly registered cars? isnt it their job also to check , at least some basics, of the registration and not only concentrating on the "technical" condition?

shouldn´t be the MOT station / tester being denounced at Vosa?

[Pericoloso]

imagineifyeswill said:

I agree with everything said but the MOT shouldnt be a problem as they have a V5 for it registered as a Ferrari so it will come up on the system exactly as the vehicle its purporting to be.

A decent MOT tester should know difference between a 1962 GTO and a supposed 1970s 400i with a plastic body on it .

[Car_Nut]

To me this looks to be a fairly blatant ringing kit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1974-JAGUAR-XJ-ROTTEN-P...

[Krikkit]

Car_Nut said:

To me this looks to be a fairly blatant ringing kit: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1974-JAGUAR-XJ-ROTTEN-P...

Yep, 100%

[A1VDY]

These pricks don't even realise a V5 belongs to DVLA and isn't theirs to sell..

[Olivergt]

A1VDY said:

These pricks don't even realise a V5 belongs to DVLA and isn't theirs to sell..

Oh, I'm sure they do, they just don't care.

Same seller has this as well. Even the service History book for this one looks dodgy, not a single date for any of the services. There is no reg visible, so can't ring the garage that did the servicing to confirm.

I have reported it.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LAND-ROVER-DISCOVERY-TD...

Edited by Olivergt on Wednesday 21st October 13:08