Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

Ringing kits for sale on ebay...No not on our watch!

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Liquid Knight

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15,754 posts

184 months

Thursday 13th January 2022
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https://m.facebook.com/matt.houghton.39/posts/3506...

rolleyes

Anyone else wonder why we are doing this. Have a look at the number of Land Rover ringing kits for sale and the number of stolen Land Rovers. eBay are literally aiding and abetting the theft of these motor vehicles and/or are accessories after the fact.

Edited by Liquid Knight on Friday 14th January 18:12

Fastpedeller

3,875 posts

147 months

Friday 14th January 2022
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PAUL500 said:
You can build a Mk1 from scratch now, all that will be used for is to give such an example a period ID instead of a new reg.

There are very few Mk1 RS 1600 left so little chance of one being stolen just to use that ID.
That doesn't make it ok though? Is that your suggestion?(probably not)

MontyC

538 posts

169 months

Sunday 27th February 2022
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How can eBay allow a logbook to be sold

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CD175-1978-LOGBOO...

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Sunday 27th February 2022
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MontyC said:
How can eBay allow a logbook to be sold

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HONDA-CD175-1978-LOGBOO...
Collecters item....

ChemicalChaos

10,402 posts

161 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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So, not a ringing kit as such but definitely something that should never see a road again! I thought I'd seen it all until I'd seen this listing....
Slightly worryingly for every comment calling it out, there's another comment supporting the author and saying its all fine.....

Problem is how one goes about reporting this to the DVLA as there is no visible identity in the listing, only the US title..... and the seller sure as hell isn't going to give details on that out now that things haven't gone his way






Nefos

252 posts

85 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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ChemicalChaos said:
So, not a ringing kit as such but definitely something that should never see a road again! I thought I'd seen it all until I'd seen this listing....
Slightly worryingly for every comment calling it out, there's another comment supporting the author and saying its all fine.....

Problem is how one goes about reporting this to the DVLA as there is no visible identity in the listing, only the US title..... and the seller sure as hell isn't going to give details on that out now that things haven't gone his way
For the title, yes, that can be quite difficult, but for rebuilding it I can see it being done and why. The new owner could buy a brand new ladder frame+running gear, and put the rusty shell (with a box somewhere with loads of tetanus injections) on it for cool looks. The car should be able to run well with new running gear and frame, but still would have the patina and the look of the fire. AFAIK this is how most rat rods are being made, looks crusty on the outside, new and well made underneath.

InitialDave

11,933 posts

120 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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It looks like the aluminium components are still intact, so it may not have gotten that toasty. I'd certainly give it a check over before condemning it.

KarlMac

4,480 posts

142 months

Tuesday 7th June 2022
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I give you, the Roadkill BBQ’uda.



https://m.imdb.com/title/tt12104166/?ref_=ext_shr_...

Can it be done? Yes.

Should it be done? Probably not.

eliot

11,446 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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Is that legit or not to sell, hard to say. You are allowed to reshell a car, and MST can now provide a full new shell.

Certainly see worse, if also understand why it's been posted.

mwstewart

7,624 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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InitialDave said:
It looks like the aluminium components are still intact, so it may not have gotten that toasty. I'd certainly give it a check over before condemning it.
Yes, that's clearly had a licking of flames rather than being the centre of an inferno. Even the rubber footplates are still visible - if it was really hot, they'd be vaporised.

The FB comments make me laugh; hydrofluoric acid won't be present in any higher concentration than a typical aluminium cleaner. It's an armchair expert response from someone with little practical mechanical experience.

mwstewart

7,624 posts

189 months

Thursday 7th July 2022
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eliot said:
Great project for someone. MST shell and good-to-go.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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V8forweekends said:
Genuine Escort Rs2000 MK2 1980/v in white with v5 logbook & Vin tag, (gcat) vin number, owned for 30 yrs, very very rotten bare I mean bare shell with absolutely nothing on it no engine or running gear, no glass or panels, no suspension or interior, abs nothing else with it, not a nut or bolt with it, it was rotten 30yrs ago and been outside since , price is 4995 pounds sterling, pls no time wasters for more info pls call 07831 ####46

Why is the model 'Escort RS Custom 2 Door Saloon' custom? Is that how they where usually recorded?

skwdenyer

16,542 posts

241 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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dhutch said:
V8forweekends said:
Genuine Escort Rs2000 MK2 1980/v in white with v5 logbook & Vin tag, (gcat) vin number, owned for 30 yrs, very very rotten bare I mean bare shell with absolutely nothing on it no engine or running gear, no glass or panels, no suspension or interior, abs nothing else with it, not a nut or bolt with it, it was rotten 30yrs ago and been outside since , price is 4995 pounds sterling, pls no time wasters for more info pls call 07831 ####46

Why is the model 'Escort RS Custom 2 Door Saloon' custom? Is that how they where usually recorded?
The RS was available in 2 trim levels: basic and "Custom."

RSOC said:
The biggest spec change came in September `78. The RS was now available in two specifications (basic and custom).
The basic was exactly the same mechanically but it lost a lot of the `luxuries`, including
Tinted glass, glove box, door cards, console and the alloys. The interior was a mixture of the 1600 Sport and the Mexico.
The custom was much the same as the original of `76 except the following.
The original Scheel seats were replaced by Recaros, the glass had a bronze tint instead of a green one and you had a choice of trim colour!

Many options were available for the RS2000 & the whole Mk2 Escort range, these options were known as ‘Series X’

in brief between 1976 and late 1978 there was only 1 model of RS2000, and hence it had some of the later Custom features, BUT if had roll top seats.

Late 1978 (when they had dropped the Mexico) they had 2 models of RS2, the base and the custom.

the custom trim should have the following.

Fishnet Recaro seats, full door cards, clock and pod, centre console, 6Jx13″ alloys, boot carpet, remote drivers door mirror and the back panel around the rear lights was black.

Base trim had Mexico door cards, steel wheels, and body colour rear pane.

Pre 78 models would of had some of the later custom features but not the fishnet seats.
Source: https://www.rsownersclub.co.uk/rs-marques/mk2-rs20...

XG332

3,927 posts

189 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Gavin0478

473 posts

142 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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AlexRS2782

8,053 posts

214 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Gavin0478 said:
"Great investment" - yeah of course it is rolleyes

Unfortunately this is how most of these sellers get around eBay's car parts / selling regs now - list it as memorabilia / wall art, etc, in a sub-category like brochures, art, etc and eBay rarely ever touch it even if it's reported as they claim the seller isn't selling it for any dodgy reasons because they're marketing it to the memorablia collector community (that was one of the responses i once received when questioning one via eBay's own support portal) rolleyes

Edit - oh look, turns out the Fiesta still exists (or at least it did before they stripped the tags / identity off it) in another one of their listings - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175198587142

Also not surprising to see it being flogged by a supposed registered business, that knows what they're doing isn't right, and that also happen to specialise / trade in used parts for Land Rovers. Based on the Fiesta identity, probably safe to assume they may have done it previously with some LR ID's as we've already had examples in the past on this thread where people seek out the classic LR ID's in order to create / build up a classic tax bracket vehicle on a modern chassis.

Edited by AlexRS2782 on Thursday 18th August 00:51

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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Landrovers are, I'm my limited and passing experience, absolutely abismal for it.

As obviously a disco's on series landy plates. As well as a less blatant 're-chassis' of a series onto a defender.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Thursday 18th August 2022
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AlexRS2782 said:
"Great investment" - yeah of course it is rolleyes



Edit - oh look, turns out the Fiesta still exists (or at least it did before they stripped the tags / identity off it) in another one of their listings - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/175198587142
Which is what I don't get. Why not sell them together? Is it really worth that much more dead than a alive.