What car...for hooning?

[UnluckyTimmeh]

S18DMW said:

DC2 Integra Type R

^ what he said

[Gad-Westy]

alfa pint said:

Westfield surely?

£4k wouldn't get much Westfield unfortunately.

[Mastodon2]

Gad-Westy said:

If you can find anything else as fast, interesting and damn right mental as this, I'll be impressed.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179708.htm

You're welcome

It's got to be this. If you have shopping / kid carrying sorted with other cars, then you need something that is purely for putting a smile on your face. I was actually looking at this car yesterday, it's incredible value for performance. This thing really will tear you a new ahole if you don't respect it, but it would be so rewarding to drive.

[theironduke]

wackojacko said:

theironduke said:

wackojacko said:

E36 M3 or Clio 172 Cup with change to spare ...... end of story.



The wedge above would be horrific when pushed on....

Just have to be brave

Far from it, Chims with newer suspension, Cerbs, Tuscans etc are fine but I found wedges to be not great to drive at any speed let alone pushing on.

Small Renaults are hard to match on a twisty B-road.

Chims with not so new suspension are pretty good too

[wackojacko]

theironduke said:

Chims with not so new suspension are pretty good too

The thought to warrant the use of the word "good" is obviously not at a harmonized level through out every humans mind set ......


A Chim on factory suspension that is over 10 years old is usually like a boat

[theironduke]

wackojacko said:

theironduke said:

Chims with not so new suspension are pretty good too

The thought to warrant the use of the word "good" is obviously not at a harmonized level through out every humans mind set ......


A Chim on factory suspension that is over 10 years old is usually like a boat

Hahaha, well mine certainly isn't...ok the suspension isn't "untouched" since it left Blackpool but it isn't brand new

[giblet]

Gad-Westy said:

If you can find anything else as fast, interesting and damn right mental as this, I'll be impressed.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179708.htm

You're welcome

I want that so badly! Would make for a hilarious weekend car to bear the boredom of driving a golf as a daily hack. Just a few k too short though, best get saving up!

[Gad-Westy]

giblet said:

Gad-Westy said:

If you can find anything else as fast, interesting and damn right mental as this, I'll be impressed.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179708.htm

You're welcome

I want that so badly! Would make for a hilarious weekend car to bear the boredom of driving a golf as a daily hack. Just a few k too short though, best get saving up!

Exactly! Most of the others cars being discussed here are hotted up tin boxes. This is a full on hedonistic automotive experience. You'll feel like a racing driver everytime you do the harnesses up. A commute to work will feel like a trip to Alton Towers. You'll be a local celebrity every time you fill up. Kids will wave at you and take photos as you drive past. The driving experience will make your cheeks hurt from grinning. It'll spank almost anything off the line at Santa Pod and put in lap times at cadwell that would make a Ferrari driver green. And all whilst bearly causing any wear or tear to brakes and tyres and being insured for pennies.

If you can afford to run something very mundane as a second car for the shopping and the M25, then I can't see a better way to spend not a lot of money.

[pops and bangs]

If it's a special car for weekends etc I wouldn't even consider a clio or something, there's no sense of occasion, they are an everyday car.

As a weekend/purely driving car I'd get something that's not practical and only for DRIVING.

Something that is still practical and would be fun though would be a turbo'd or supercharged mx5.

For £4000 you would get an excellent mk1 with all the work already done.

I know the mx5 is always mentioned on this site, even when people ask for a people carrier someone would say mx5, but seriously a forced induction mk1 would be a great fun car.

Don't consider a stock one though.

And I have mentioned sense of occasion which you don't get in an mx5 but I'd say a forced induction one has more sense of occasion than a hatchback and it would arguably be more fun.

Or maybe save a bit more and get this lol

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2655461.htm

Edited by pops and bangs on Tuesday 6th September 12:11

[alfa pint]

Gad-Westy said:

alfa pint said:

Westfield surely?

£4k wouldn't get much Westfield unfortunately.

There were 3 in the PH classifieds just sold for that sort of money. 1700 crossflows.

[Noger]

Gad-Westy said:

giblet said:

Gad-Westy said:

If you can find anything else as fast, interesting and damn right mental as this, I'll be impressed.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179708.htm

You're welcome

I want that so badly! Would make for a hilarious weekend car to bear the boredom of driving a golf as a daily hack. Just a few k too short though, best get saving up!

Exactly! Most of the others cars being discussed here are hotted up tin boxes. This is a full on hedonistic automotive experience. You'll feel like a racing driver everytime you do the harnesses up. A commute to work will feel like a trip to Alton Towers. You'll be a local celebrity every time you fill up. Kids will wave at you and take photos as you drive past. The driving experience will make your cheeks hurt from grinning. It'll spank almost anything off the line at Santa Pod and put in lap times at cadwell that would make a Ferrari driver green. And all whilst bearly causing any wear or tear to brakes and tyres and being insured for pennies.

If you can afford to run something very mundane as a second car for the shopping and the M25, then I can't see a better way to spend not a lot of money.

"AB Performance Sump Baffle" .... as seen on Dragons' Den. That probably puts another £500 on !

How much better could a hoon be than a foot to the floor flatshift at over 10,000rpm

[giblet]

Time for me to start researching bike engined kit cars and get saving. Would make a nice 25th birthday present for myself next summer. Just hope the insurance isn't as bad as my quotes on normal cars

[m1dg3]

giblet said:

Time for me to start researching bike engined kit cars and get saving. Would make a nice 25th birthday present for myself next summer. Just hope the insurance isn't as bad as my quotes on normal cars

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. My R1 powered Indy is £150 to insure with limited mileage.

[PaulFontaine]

Gad-Westy said:

If you can find anything else as fast, interesting and damn right mental as this, I'll be impressed.

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3179708.htm

You're welcome

This is the crazy stuff we dont got in the US. It looks great!

[W7NNS]

Thanks for the suggestions! Time to put the Scoob up for sale I think.

So.Much.Want for the fisher - would never have thought of that. Am really really leaning towards something bike engined now. What are they like reliability wise? Anything specific to look for?

[giblet]

Forgot to say earlier, been out as a passenger in a mates Scoob Wrx Sti Type R V5 (I think thats the official title!) with the dccd. No other car has scared me as much! The brutal nature of the acceleration combined with the short shift gearbox = insane. Will be interesting to see what you end up replacing your Scoob with

[Gad-Westy]

W7NNS said:

Thanks for the suggestions! Time to put the Scoob up for sale I think.

So.Much.Want for the fisher - would never have thought of that. Am really really leaning towards something bike engined now. What are they like reliability wise? Anything specific to look for?

Good man!

It's hard to quantify the reliability as obviously a lot of that comes down to the builder. The engines themselves seem very reliable and even if it were to fail spectacularly, a replacement fireblade engine is less than £1000 and can be lifted in by hand with the help of a friend. Because the oil sumps are designed for bikes which lean during heavy cornering some of the the commonly used car bike engines require baffled of dry sumps for track work especially when using sticky tyres. I think the fireblade lump is safe but may be worth double checking. The clutch springs often need beefing up but most builders would have already done this.

The biggest source of unreliability seems to come when people fit transfer boxes so that they can use a reverse gear. Some of these are crude chain driven affairs and seem prone to failure. If it were me, I think I'd go without reverse or use an electric reverse.

Otherwise, they're quite simple cars. I'm sure you would expect niggles but everything should be simple enough to sort very quickly and easily and parts are nearly always dirt cheap.

ETA, the Fisher I linked to has no reverse box fitted and a baffled sort. Sorted

Edited by Gad-Westy on Wednesday 7th September 11:28

[mikeveal]

W7NNS said:

Thanks for the suggestions! Time to put the Scoob up for sale I think.

So.Much.Want for the fisher - would never have thought of that. Am really really leaning towards something bike engined now. What are they like reliability wise? Anything specific to look for?

Blade engines aren't bullet proof in BECs. There have been a few instances of #3 piston coming out the side of the crankcase. It happens on long hi-G corners (can't remember if left or right), as has been said, it's an oil starvation problem. There were quite a lot of blade powered cars in the early days of BECs and whilst this did happen, it was fairly rare.

This is a BEC. You should regard the engine as a commodity item. If it pops, just fit a new one. A like for like engine can be swapped in an evening. The engines are around 70Kg, so quite easy to lift into position without specialist gear. A blade engine should be much cheaper than £1000 these days.

That looks like a cracking car for £4K. The Fishers have a great chassis too. I thoroughly recommend a test drive in a BEC, it's a totally different driving experience. There are some downsides. BECs are revvy at speed. Motorway driving is not fun. Errr, I'm struggling to think of any more.

Gopher it.

[anonymous-user]

Jw Vw said:

wackojacko said:

E36 M3 or Clio 172 Cup with change to spare

This.

The M3 just shades it for me though.

I looked for an e36 M3 with this sort of budget a while ago. I couldn't find a decent one. Good luck if you go on a search though, I'm sure there must be some decent ones out there

[Madscanner]

I'd suggest a K-reg Mk2 2 MR2 Twin Entry Turbo

(it just so happens that I know where you can buy one, cheap)