'normal' cars on a Q plate

[drakart]

It was possibly a car belonging to a member of the US military. They often have Q plates on normal "english rhd" cars.

[gingerpaul]

Mr2Mike said:

No, they now supposed to be tested to the emissions data which is provided by the DVLA to the testing center (and which is printed on the V5). Some people seem to have avoided this, but it's not a given.

Interesting if true as this contradicts everything I've ever read on the subject. Is this a new development? Do you have a link to corroborate this?

[The Black Flash]

gingerpaul said:

Mr2Mike said:

No, they now supposed to be tested to the emissions data which is provided by the DVLA to the testing center (and which is printed on the V5). Some people seem to have avoided this, but it's not a given.

Interesting if true as this contradicts everything I've ever read on the subject. Is this a new development? Do you have a link to corroborate this?

From what I've read, Gingerpaul has it right. It seemed unlikely to me, but everything I could find said visible smoke only. I too would be interested in evidence to the contrary.

[gingerpaul]

Well blow me, Mr2Mike is correct. Despite many, many sources saying things to the contrary it should come down to what is on your V5! Check out the box in the bottom right of this page of the MOT manual.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/7.3%20Exhaus...

"For emissions purposes only, kit cars and amateur built
vehicles first used before 1 August 1998 and wankel
rotary-engined vehicles first used before 1 August 1987
are to be considered first used before 1 August 1975.
Kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used on or after
1 August 1998 ("S" reg) are required to obtain Single
Vehicle Approval and should be tested to the limits
stated on the registration document."

I'd be interested to hear what people with Q plates who have been through SVA/IVA have on their V5s now.

Every day is a school day!

Edit - Further confusion. A Q plate is treated as pre 1975 for the purposes of an MOT. The section above contradicts this. It could be argued that the section above is intended for car with age related plates only. I would probably still say Mr2Mike is correct but that the rules are not written clearly enough for it to be conclusive.

Edited by gingerpaul on Wednesday 7th September 13:17

[richtea78]

sinizter said:

How did it end up with the person driving it if it was stolen, recovered and not identifiable ? Sold through auctions ?

No idea sorry, it was just something I read once online. It may or may not be true!

[DanGPR]

Wow, seems I've opened a bit of a can of worms with this one!

Done a bit of googling and according to the DVLA website, those that have said about not being able to trace it's identity are right, it's not to do with being damaged.

Also, it is not possible to buy a private "Q" plate, and cars reqistered with a "Q" are not eligible for a reg transfer , unless proof of identity turns up, in which case they can be registered with an age related plate.

[The Black Flash]

gingerpaul said:

Well blow me, Mr2Mike is correct. Despite many, many sources saying things to the contrary it should come down to what is on your V5! Check out the box in the bottom right of this page of the MOT manual.

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/7.3%20Exhaus...

"For emissions purposes only, kit cars and amateur built
vehicles first used before 1 August 1998 and wankel
rotary-engined vehicles first used before 1 August 1987
are to be considered first used before 1 August 1975.
Kit cars and amateur built vehicles first used on or after
1 August 1998 ("S" reg) are required to obtain Single
Vehicle Approval and should be tested to the limits
stated on the registration document."

I'd be interested to hear what people with Q plates who have been through SVA/IVA have on their V5s now.

Every day is a school day!

Edit - Further confusion. A Q plate is treated as pre 1975 for the purposes of an MOT. The section above contradicts this. It could be argued that the section above is intended for car with age related plates only. I would probably still say Mr2Mike is correct but that the rules are not written clearly enough for it to be conclusive.

Edited by gingerpaul on Wednesday 7th September 13:17

...which all goes to explain why some people get a visible smoke test, and others have to do the same test they did at IVA. Depends who wrote what on the v5 at the point of registration.

Once again the DVLA/VOSA triumph with clear, unambiguous rules which are applied universally

[Mr2Mike]

The Black Flash said:

Once again the DVLA/VOSA triumph with clear, unambiguous rules which are applied universally

Did we ever expect anything less?

[spcmarine]

If it happened to be a blue ST in the Worthing area it may well be a friend of mine. His is on a Q plate as he brought in back with him from Australia. (The car is branded as an XR5.

[DanGPR]

spcmarine said:

If it happened to be a blue ST in the Worthing area it may well be a friend of mine. His is on a Q plate as he brought in back with him from Australia. (The car is branded as an XR5.

Blue St, check.
Worthing area, check.

Small world! Confusion solved!

[Roo]

spcmarine said:

If it happened to be a blue ST in the Worthing area it may well be a friend of mine. His is on a Q plate as he brought in back with him from Australia. (The car is branded as an XR5.

So what was the reason for not getting an age related plate?