RE: Evora GTE 'Proves Lotus Is A £100k Brand'

RE: Evora GTE 'Proves Lotus Is A £100k Brand'

Wednesday 7th September 2011

Evora GTE 'Proves Lotus Is A £100k Brand'

Special edition's success boosts boss's confidence in 5 year plan


Proof Lotus can sell cars at £100k
Proof Lotus can sell cars at £100k
PH bumped into Dany Bahar at Lotus HQ in Hethel yesterday, and we couldn't help sharing our mutual excitement about the new Evora GTE special edition parked in the lobby.

The car, a new variation of which will be on show at Frankfurt next week, was originally conceived to mark Lotus's campaign at Le Mans this year. The firm had planned to swiftly build a handful of the racing car-inspired machines for the Chinese market (it's easier because their regulators haven't caught up with Euro/US-style pedestrian safety regs and such-like), but orders for nearly 120 cars 'flooded in'. And all before Lotus actually opened the doors of its first Chinese dealer.

Feedback in Europe has been strong too, and there's now a plan to build a version of the GTE for us - they're working on a more 'pedestrian friendly' design as we speak. Numbers and prices are yet to be confirmed, but with 444hp, a hydraulically-actuated manual transmission and a bespoke bodyshell with carbon panels, you can expect it to cost at least double the price of an Evora S - so it could be upwards of £120k.

Dany: It's only one market so far, but...
Dany: It's only one market so far, but...
So what does Dany make of this (apparently) unexpected success?

"I've often been challenged in internal discussions by the question 'what makes you think Lotus can sell a car for over £100k?'," he told us.

"Admittedly it's in only one market so far, but this is the perfect example of how we can go a lot further than £100k - and that's just with existing product, and before any of the new cars arrive.

"Many sports car owners and enthusiasts would love to drive a Lotus, but couldn't find anything in the line-up - they're the people who spend money on the 'Scuderias' and 'R' versions," he told us.

Racing programme inspired the GTE
Racing programme inspired the GTE
"Our brand enjoys a lot of sympathy, after all buyers in this sector are not necessarily the youngest, and they remember Lotus in the old days. The GTE proves we don't have to build our brand up from scratch."

If a European-ised version of the GTE goes as well as it has in China, he may be on to something. Either way, it's great to see Lotus doing something 'here and now', both with the GTE and a raft of significant improvements that have just been announced for the MY2012 Evora, more on which anon...

As part of our visit, we also got a tour of the new trim-shop which has just been installed at the Hethel factory. It's a bit odd to realise that Lotus makes all the trim components for the Evora in-house (apart from the Recaro seats), simply because no external supplier will quote reasonable prices for the limited volumes required. (One of the reasons there are crates of Evora side-windows at the factory, marked 'shipped from Peru'.)

When the promised new models come on stream (all five will be production-engineered to share a single production line, in spite of reported chatter about building cars abroad), the plan is to follow modern practise and buy-in components ready-trimmed - potentially leaving the new trim-shop to develop into a luxury/bespoke customisation centre.

It's all intriguing stuff, and who's to say Dany isn't right to take his inspiration from Kevin Costner and Field of Dreams? 'If you build them, buyers will come...' Especially if they're already queuing for the Evora GTE.



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thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I wonder how much the next generation Esprit will cost?

Chris-R

756 posts

188 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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thewheelman said:
I wonder how much the next generation Esprit will cost?
Around £125k - current projection!

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyI...

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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When they make the new cars they'll prove £100k cars are more than possible.

Pleased that the Evora is going well. Everything seems to be on track... smile

nagra

4,711 posts

185 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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You should have asked him what the f*ck he is doing employing that Swiss beats guy.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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TBH, i don't think selling a handfull of niche models into an emerging market is really that hard. When you have kept it up for 5 years, and can seel £100k cars in sensible volumes in Europe then i think perhaps Porsche and Ferrari would be right to be a bit worried.

The problem with announcing a fantastic 5 year plan, is that these days, people don't want to wait 5 years, they want it now. Which leaves the inevitable product vacuum, with only silly press releases about rappers et-al, to fill the void. Lets have some proper cars, and quickly......

thewheelman

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2,194 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I'd like to see TVR make a comeback, ok they were never going to sell in big numbers, but surely if they could sell to China & places such as Dubai, they could make a profit. Or is it just wishful thinking on my part?

Johnpidge

588 posts

190 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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5 year plans yada yada

My boss talks this sorts of bks.........

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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thewheelman said:
Or is it just wishful thinking on my part?
Unfortunatley I suspect you know the answer.

Blown2CV

28,861 posts

204 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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surely making it doesn't prove anything whereas selling it does?

MonteV

363 posts

261 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Lotus brand value of adding lightness is spot on in today's times. Light and small. The more they can stick to it, the better, I believe. Interesting how the brand apparently gets a lot of "brand sympathy". I'm also sympathetic to Lotus, and I believe the world is a more exciting place with Lotus in it. Bahar needs to convert the brand sympathy into firm orders and I think special editions of the current models is one way go. There are still niches to explore out there.

HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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MonteV said:
Bahar needs to convert the brand sympathy into firm orders and I think special editions of the current models is one way go. There are still niches to explore out there.
Sean Connery thread is that way --------->
laugh

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Chasing the pounds (both £ & lbs) seems to be the company ethos.

I think it is a real shame they have not offered a lightweight Evora S, which is actually cheaper than the standard car and lighter (without any power upgrades and simply tweaking suspension, then strip out the interior completely) creating a slightly grown up Exige that it is possible to enter and exit without becoming a contortionist!!

I still think the GTE is a stunning car.

thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

174 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Good on Lotus for having the stones to produce this car, especially with the Esprit looming at a similar price tag. You'd never find Porsche being so brave to make the a Cayman RS that would potentially out preform some 911 models, even though they would be aimed at a different buyer.

khushy

3,966 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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I thought Danni Behr was a burd!

Thorburn

2,399 posts

194 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Johnpidge said:
5 year plans yada yada

My boss talks this sorts of bks.........
You're right, when you have products that take years of design, research and development to produce its much better to just take a short term view of things.

threespires

4,297 posts

212 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Johnpidge said:
5 year plans yada yada

My boss talks this sorts of bks.........
Which perhaps explains why he's the boss and you're not.
Thank him for working on his 5 year plan to keep you in a job.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Thorburn said:
Johnpidge said:
5 year plans yada yada

My boss talks this sorts of bks.........
You're right, when you have products that take years of design, research and development to produce its much better to just take a short term view of things.
Exactly. People seem to hate the fact that Lotus have a plan. Everyone has a plan. You need a freakin' plan! Investors want a god damned plan! And when you stick to that plan, everyone's bloody happy. Part of the plan is selling cars and hitting quotas. It's a plan guys.

Would some of you be happier if the management turned around and said "Plans? Nah mate...I'm off on a 6 month holiday...when we get back we'll change the bumper on the Elise and maybe...to fill the time, start selling rebadged Caterhams...not really bothered to be honest"!

Anyway, I think this is going to be great to watch. And if it all works out as planned I hope Bahar gets the recognition he deserves.

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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The style of this GTE looks remarkably identical to the "Mansory" bodykit Evora......


Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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threespires said:
Johnpidge said:
5 year plans yada yada

My boss talks this sorts of bks.........
Which perhaps explains why he's the boss and you're not.
Thank him for working on his 5 year plan to keep you in a job.
Apparently Apple have a water tight 7 year plan.

Explains a lot.

British Beef

2,220 posts

166 months

Wednesday 7th September 2011
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Strange nothing was ever made or sold with the Mansory - perhaps it was thrown out there as a market feeler for the GTE, without the shame of Lotus getting it wrong?