Porsche 993 C2S vs BMW M3 CSL

Porsche 993 C2S vs BMW M3 CSL

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Jandywa

1,062 posts

153 months

Thursday 15th September 2011
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911's are overrated. The none GT ones anyway.

The Moose

22,906 posts

211 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Jandywa said:
911's are overrated. The none GT ones anyway.
Don't bloody start!! rolleyes

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

208 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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Jandywa said:
911's are overrated. The none GT ones anyway.
I wonder how many of each you've owned - or at least driven extensively - to be able to make such an insightful and informed assertion.

scratchchin

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

201 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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I'd like them both for different reasons, it depends how you're planning to drive it IMO.

Weekend pottering about, attending car shows, trips into the country with the OH then the 993 would be my choice.

For blowing off the cobwebs on destered roads, trackdays, the odd euro trip then CSL.

gman1001

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37 posts

200 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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She's a beauty,Where are the Mitchellen Cups on the mags. thanks for photos she tidy.

gman1001

Original Poster:

37 posts

200 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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She's a beauty,Where are the Mitchellen Cups on the mags. thanks for photos she tidy.

schmalex

13,616 posts

208 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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gman1001 said:
993 C2S has the looks but CSL has the performance......
How often can you use the performance on the roads in the UK, though?

The 993 would be very hard for me to walk away from.

outnumbered

4,118 posts

236 months

Friday 16th September 2011
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schmalex said:
How often can you use the performance on the roads in the UK, though?

I've never found it a problem in mine rotate

billzeebub

3,865 posts

201 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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993 wins for me..it is just a more special car, and has a better image..even if it is slower

HFLagos

435 posts

214 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Well I sold my 993 C2S (manual) last year. Prior to the 993 C2S, I had the widebody 964 Celebration (manual). I loved the looks of the 993, it really is a lovely looking car, though in hindsight I think I preferred the looks of my 964.

After a year or so with the 993 and quite a few spirited early Sunday morning drives down to Goodwood, I began to feel the car was a bit underwhelming to drive and dare I say it, a bit slow. I've been in plenty of 993's over the years, in fact mine felt a bit perkier than other examples, so there was nothing wrong with my car as such. I did realise though from driving so many 993's that if I'd owned a 993 C2 (narrow body) I would not have felt this way as the 993 C2 is a bit more "agile". It's quite a pure and analogue experience.

I then took the M3 CSL for a drive. Within a couple of minutes I realised the CSL would be my next car and I am fortunate to own a lovely example now. I honestly prefer the CSL in so many ways over the 993 (performance, handling, use of carbon fibre, interior etc), but the overwhelming reason is the engine and induction noise in the CSL. It screams. And keeps on screaming.





birdcage

2,842 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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CSL all day long, completely different car to 'cooking' pork

GreigM

6,733 posts

251 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Why the CSL? Doing trackdays?

If not I'd be looking at a 996 turbo at that price.

sday12

5,053 posts

213 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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You won't get a good 993 C2S for £27 K IMHO.


Good ones start at £35K



StuB

6,695 posts

241 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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From a Porsche owner who's driven both, CSL, by a big margin. Noise, poise, intensity, noise, speed, seat of the pants feedback, noise .....

I just don't get the "specialness" fabled of the 993 personally, with relatively humble power, really offset pedals, VFM etc..

gman1001

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37 posts

200 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Nice photos HFLabos. ... I have also owned a 964 C2 previous and although do agree lack of power was a small issue and i dont doubt eventually will feel the same in 993 ,but my brother owns a CSL so regular use is not an issue, do we need 2 CSL in our family.???? I feel Porsche still has something to offer me, but WHAT. Just sold a 400bhp Audi rs4 b5. so a 996 turbo is to similar a 996 GT3 bit to expensive, 993 c2s bit over priced, 993c2 narrow body not special enough. What do u do nearly £30k must be one of these cars or not .....

fer123

81 posts

153 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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M3 CSL Way better although 911 better looking

Adz The Rat

14,261 posts

211 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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CSL would be my choice.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

184 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=...

cloud9

Tough choice but not exactly a bad position to be in!.

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

206 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Very different cars. I'm on my 2nd 993 but have had 2 M3s (current and previous models) and have driven the CSL. the 993 would be (and is!) my choice. It is slower and older but still very good to drive and better looking IMO, although I agree with another poster that 964 better still (but only to look at unless you have an RS). I drive an automatic 3 series as my daily car and it is brilliant but the CSL would be too similar. The 993 is just very different and feels more special as a weekend car for that reason.

wigsworld

256 posts

188 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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993 definitely.