£500 winter hack

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bluebear

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604 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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think i will go down the frontera way. they dont have complicated 4 wheel drive systems do they. you know having to press 3 different buttons and pull 2 leavers just to get up the first hill, and then have to reset it all for the next Hill

ChevronB19

5,803 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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robminiman said:
4x4 fiat panda (old type) or subaru justy, if you then added winter tyres aswell it would be unstopable
Find me an old shape panda 4x4 with an MOT for 500 quid and I'll buy it, seriously...

bluebear

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604 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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been offered a ssang yong musso 2.9 diesel for £600. its got 170k on the clock and part history up to 140k. after that owner says his son did it as he is a diesel mechanic ? not sure about it though. cheep winter hack. only need it to last 4-5 months. its got the same engine as in sprinter van

dear lord she is a ugly b!tch

Edited by bluebear on Saturday 17th September 00:12

ChevronB19

5,803 posts

164 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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bluebear said:
been offered a ssang yong musso 2.9 diesel for £600. its got 170k on the clock and part history up to 140k. after that owner says his son did it as he is a diesel mechanic ? not sure about it though. cheep winter hack. only need it to last 4-5 months. its got the same engine as in sprinter van

dear lord she is a ugly b!tch

Edited by bluebear on Saturday 17th September 00:12
Offer 350 and if you get it and anything at all goes wrong, weigh it in and you won't get far off the purchase price in scrap value.


jayfish

6,795 posts

204 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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this website might come in handy, hard to navigate but right up your street http://carsunder500.co.uk/

Disco You

3,685 posts

181 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Drop the 4x4 requirement and get a fwd shopping trolley with a good heater and equip it with winter tyres and chains if necessary.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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bluebear said:
think i will go down the frontera way. they dont have complicated 4 wheel drive systems do they. you know having to press 3 different buttons and pull 2 leavers just to get up the first hill, and then have to reset it all for the next Hill
No offense meant, but I'd highly recommend reading up on how and why different AWD systems work. Part of using them correctly is understanding them.

£500 leaves little scope these days. I'd say a Series III Landy. 4.0 Jeep Cherokee or maybe a Lada Riva are your likely best bets.

bluebear

Original Poster:

604 posts

155 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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oh i have not got a clue how the 4 wheel drive leavers and buttons work. just want to keep moving this winter

skwdenyer

16,536 posts

241 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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W124 Mercedes 4Matic estate. Mine cost me £320 on eBay with an MOT and was unstoppable in the snow with decent tyres on it. Sold it for £200 when the MOT ran out and I couldn't really justify keeping it in central London.

Does the vehicle just need to get through when nothing else will, in emergency or for fun? In which case, look out for an Argo or similar - it will be more than £500, but some are road-registered, and all will hold their value well. But, err, they won't be warm or comfortable smile

WeirdNeville

5,966 posts

216 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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bluebear said:
oh i have not got a clue how the 4 wheel drive leavers and buttons work. just want to keep moving this winter
If you want to keep moving, your best shot is learning how all the levers and buttons work.
A 4x4 is about as useless as any other vehicle if you don't understand the function of diff locks and low range gears. It'll transfer all its power to the one wheel without any grip as readily as a 2wd vehicle unless you force it not to.

GreigM

6,728 posts

250 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Mr2Mike said:
But surely with proper winter tyres it's going to be rather more fit for purpose than some complete shed of a 4x4 which will like have 4 different budget tyres in various stages of baldness?
This is the most sensible post on this thread. The Mazda with proper winter tyres will be way better than all of the "good" 4x4s out there on summer rubber, never mind a shed with poor tyres. You could easily spend £500 here and end up with less traction than you currently do.

Add to your £500 the insurance, tax, MoT costs, breakdown cover (it is a £500 shed, it will break down). Also factor in that you are wearing your summer tyres less, so will replace them less often and the sums all point to proper winter tyres.


I put some Nokian WRG2s on my Mazda 6 last year (2wd) and it was unbeatable in the snow - ended up towing a neighbours X5 out of my way so I could keep going. The amount of snow we experienced in the last 2 years in central Scotland is extremely unusual - you would have to look back 30yrs to get anything even close - if you had proper winter tyres on your mazda you'd more than cope, and other cars stranded would become the factor which stops you getting from A to B.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
£500 leaves little scope these days. I'd say a Series III Landy. 4.0 Jeep Cherokee or maybe a Lada Riva are your likely best bets.
A Lada Niva would be a rather better option! And I wouldn't bother with an S3 Landy for that sort of money; unless you are extremely lucky it will be a festering pile of scrap and they aren't very nice to drive in freezing conditions.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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i got my Unimog for 2 grand

But its got 2 gear levers and another 2 for the locks you might not be happy with this if you don't like buttons and levers

rb5er

11,657 posts

173 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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GreigM said:
Mr2Mike said:
But surely with proper winter tyres it's going to be rather more fit for purpose than some complete shed of a 4x4 which will like have 4 different budget tyres in various stages of baldness?
This is the most sensible post on this thread. The Mazda with proper winter tyres will be way better than all of the "good" 4x4s out there on summer rubber, never mind a shed with poor tyres.

Add to your £500 the insurance, tax, MoT costs, breakdown cover (it is a £500 shed, it will break down). Also factor in that you are wearing your summer tyres less, so will replace them less often and the sums all point to proper winter tyres .
I have to disagree with these points. My awd legacy went through snow and ice on hills a few rwd and fwd winter tyre equipped cars could not handle.

No extra cost for winter tyres.

And your point about a 500pound shed will break down... i have a 500 fiesta shed which has never broken down.

GreigM

6,728 posts

250 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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rb5er said:
I have to disagree with these points. My awd legacy went through snow and ice on hills a few rwd and fwd winter tyre equipped cars could not handle.
His mazda is 4wd.
rb5er said:
And your point about a 500pound shed will break down... i have a 500 fiesta shed which has never broken down.
How much maintenance does it require though? You've spent nothing on it? The comparison here is the running costs of a separate £500 shed vs a set of winter tyres.

p4cks

6,919 posts

200 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
i got my Unimog for 2 grand

But its got 2 gear levers and another 2 for the locks you might not be happy with this if you don't like buttons and levers
Erm and the fact it is 4 times his budget?!

Roger Dodger

12,230 posts

195 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
i got my Unimog for 2 grand

But its got 2 gear levers and another 2 for the locks you might not be happy with this if you don't like buttons and levers
£2k!

Was it fked?

XJSJohn

15,966 posts

220 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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That Ssanyong - fugly beast but they have the asthmatic old merc diesel engine in them, indestructable! They are as tough as old boots (and about as stylish)

probably bang on for your requirements though!

Zwoelf

25,867 posts

207 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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bluebear said:
THe family's current garage consists of a Mazda 6 MPS,Audi TT,and skyline weekend toy. NOt a winter friendly garage
confused

They're all all/four-wheel drive are they not?

Spend £500 on a set of winter tyres/chains for one of them and do without the additional tax, maintenance and insurance of another vehicle.

Edited by Zwoelf on Saturday 17th September 12:07

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

205 months

Saturday 17th September 2011
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Roger Dodger said:
thinfourth2 said:
i got my Unimog for 2 grand

But its got 2 gear levers and another 2 for the locks you might not be happy with this if you don't like buttons and levers
£2k!

Was it fked?
No thats about the going rate for a 404s