Storing tyres?

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Kiltox

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14,621 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Would it be fine to store 4 tyres off their rims? Any precautions I'd need to take?

I want to buy winter tyres but not necessarily another set of wheels.

poing

8,743 posts

201 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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I store mine in the garage stacked on their sides, can't see any problems. My original plan was to move them around so the one at the bottom isn't under all the others for too long but due to terminal laziness I never got around to it. Guess I'll find out in a month or so if this was a bad idea laugh

maniac0796

1,292 posts

167 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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Yeah, you need to store them at an angle of 68 degrees in a temperature of -26 otherwise the rubber with deteriorate. You also need to coat the inside with candy floss so the rare tyre worm can't nest in there.







Think about what happens to them when you drive on the bloody things. Stack them up in the corner and leave them. They'll be fine.

Kiltox

Original Poster:

14,621 posts

159 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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maniac0796 said:
Yeah, you need to store them at an angle of 68 degrees in a temperature of -26 otherwise the rubber with deteriorate. You also need to coat the inside with candy floss so the rare tyre worm can't nest in there.







Think about what happens to them when you drive on the bloody things. Stack them up in the corner and leave them. They'll be fine.
rofl

7mike

3,010 posts

194 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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maniac0796 said:
Yeah, you need to store them at an angle of 68 degrees in a temperature of -26 otherwise the rubber with deteriorate. You also need to coat the inside with candy floss so the rare tyre worm can't nest in there.
That's just bks. Everyone knows the tyre worm won't breed at anything less than -5. OP, he's pulling yer leg. Don't go wasting money on all that candy floss.rolleyes


I did read somewhere that tyres on a rim should be stored flat (stood up if off the rim) but can't remember where.

cossy400

3,165 posts

185 months

Sunday 18th September 2011
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maniac0796 said:
Yeah, you need to store them at an angle of 68 degrees in a temperature of -26 otherwise the rubber with deteriorate. You also need to coat the inside with candy floss so the rare tyre worm can't nest in there.


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Think about what happens to them when you drive on the bloody things. Stack them up in the corner and leave them. They'll be fine.
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Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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If you leave them for over a year or so then the rubber can start to dry out and crack – depending on storage conditions.
Tyres are self lubricating to retain their softness, but they need to be driven on to keep that going.
New tyres have a coating on to stop them drying out for a few years out the factory, but once driven on this coating wears off.
This is why people used to rotate in a spare tyre before the days of space savers and tyre seal, and why most legitimate tyre places won't sell new tyres over 3 years old.

If it's just for a winter/summer swap then you'll be fine.
Just drive a little carefully for a few days once the tyres have been swapped until the surface gets worn back in.

rallycross

12,821 posts

238 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
Just drive a little carefully for a few days once the tyres have been swapped until the surface gets worn back in.
rolleyes

Snowboy

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152 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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rallycross said:
rolleyes
You have a different opinion?
I'd be interested to hear it.

Cupramax

10,482 posts

253 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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maniac0796 said:
Yeah, you need to store them at an angle of 68 degrees in a temperature of -26 otherwise the rubber with deteriorate. You also need to coat the inside with candy floss so the rare tyre worm can't nest in there.



Think about what happens to them when you drive on the bloody things. Stack them up in the corner and leave them. They'll be fine.
Stupid question deserves stupid answer hehe

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
You have a different opinion?
Mainly that posts on PH should have some connection with reality.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Ozzie Osmond said:
Mainly that posts on PH should have some connection with reality.
Righto.
So, you think that my comment about the outer edge of tyres degrading during storage is inaccurate then.
Fair enough.

rallycross

12,821 posts

238 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
Ozzie Osmond said:
Mainly that posts on PH should have some connection with reality.
Righto.
So, you think that my comment about the outer edge of tyres degrading during storage is inaccurate then.
Fair enough.
I keep a stock of about 60-90 used tyres of various different sizes which get fitted as and when required (including a pile of winters). These are stored in a garage.

I dont remember having to drive slowly for the first week of having them fitted, and I dont recal any of them exploding in the first week.

If they are no good we wouldnt fit them in the first place (that would be stupid).

The award for the longest second use of a set of tyres for me is a set of used Dunlop stage rally tyres; I used them a couple of times in 2001, then stored them in the garage, and got them back out again in 2008 for an autocross - still being used this year, no problems.

Experience of use in the real world means more to me than most of the rubbish I read on the net!


Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Thanks for the answer.

I never said a week though, I never said you would explode.
Those are your words.

I merely said that (to use other words) in my experience tyres that haven't been used for a while will benefit from a few miles of careful driving until the exposed rubber has been driven on a bit.
That after storage they can be a bit slippy.

That's my experience.

60

1,479 posts

188 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Snowboy said:
That after storage they can be a bit slippy.

That's my experience.
Don't store them in a drum of oil HTH

wink

In my experience they are fine just stacked on their sides in the shed (that was without wheels)

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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60 said:
Don't store them in a drum of oil HTH
Damn.
I'm getting confused between tyres and tuna again. wink

Gene Vincent

4,002 posts

159 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Kiltox said:
Would it be fine to store 4 tyres off their rims? Any precautions I'd need to take?

I want to buy winter tyres but not necessarily another set of wheels.
The only real enemy of tyres is ultra-violet... so given our recent weather and that likely this winter I doubt you need anything special, but I would clean then and I would coat the side-walls with a little silicone spray.

Despite the varying advice I would heat cycle the tyres just to re-organise the molecular bonds evenly after storage. But I doubt that it would make much difference unless the car ran some serious and expensive rubber and even then I'm not sure it would be even vaguely noticeable, they might just wear a tad less as a result.

Nick3point2

3,917 posts

181 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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I'm glad the OP's genuine question has been lost in a tirade of st slinging, I needed reminding why this place can be so annoying.



OP, don't stack them, it worsens degrading. Preferably, stand them up side by side, and if you want to be super keen, rotate them every couple weeks.

Kiltox

Original Poster:

14,621 posts

159 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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Thanks to those who gave serious responses. smile

J4CKO

41,646 posts

201 months

Monday 19th September 2011
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I heard that Ozone is a factor, i.e. the gas which is produced naturally and by sparks, i.e. from motors when there is arcing, I guess Mig welding probably generates it,

http://tyres.wordpress.com/2011/04/14/ozone-attack...

So, perhaps store them away from anything with a sizable motor, such as domestic appliances, electric garage compressors etc.