Conscientous way of letting go of a lemon...

Conscientous way of letting go of a lemon...

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vrsmxtb

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2,002 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Right, here's the deal...

I have a car that has a problem. It doesn't make it undriveable and is not something many people are ever going to spot, but driving the car regularly not being aware of it will lead to coolant loss, overheating and engine damage.

I bought the car as a private sale, and paid on the high side to start with. For all intenets and purposes the car looks like a tidy example. I've spent hundreds recently trying to solve the issue, but it turns out the most financially economical solution is a straight engine swap. I've lost all enthusiasm and faith in the car, and wouldn't be able to afford to fund an engine swap this year and my gut feeling is I don't want to invest anymore in this car,despite the fact once a new engine is in place it would be a very good example that could be an extremely reliable second, fun car for as long as I wanted it.

I'm a very straight-up conscientous person but obviously a big part of me is very frustrated for buying a problematic vehicle and for throwing a lot of money at it with no improvement. I wouldn't want to sell it on, knowing it will cause someone else problems, even if this is possibly what happened to me but a part ofme does want to at least try and recoup some of my initial outlay in terms of purchase price.

It's a tough call as far as I can see, the obvious thing is to declare everything on an e-bay ad and accept it will go for peanuts.Can anyone suggest another way, that might get me a bit better return on it without too much bad conscience.Was wondering if it could go to a "sold as seen" auction or something which detaches me directly from the sale.

Thoughts please... finding it hard to make the right call on this one...

pthelazyjourno

1,848 posts

170 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Trade it in?

I wouldn't have any qualms about flogging an iffy car to half the garages round my way - they've certainly tried it on with me in the past.

Chicane-UK

3,861 posts

186 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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I don't think there is any way of conscientiously selling that car without losing money.

Stick it on eBay, and detail the problems - or pony up and get it fixed before selling it.

I'm too honest and would struggle to sell someone something that I knew was a lemon!

Six Fiend

6,067 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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What car, problem and value?

Such info may lead to some good ideas... smile

freenote

784 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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WBAC

h0b0

7,639 posts

197 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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WBAC.com

vrsmxtb

Original Poster:

2,002 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Six Fiend said:
What car, problem and value?

Such info may lead to some good ideas... smile
OK - 1.8 MX5

Minor head gasket failure, but has an incorrect head fitted to the engine - has been in the hands of a bodgemaster at some point.

Value - I paid £1800 in April minus £250 I recouped from a hardtop. Spent in the region of £7-800 on it this year. Further repairs needed £700-1000.

WBAC valuation £850 frown


freenote

784 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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vrsmxtb said:
WBAC valuation £850 frown
But you prob won't feel guilty once it's sold.

theironduke

6,995 posts

189 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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vrsmxtb said:
Six Fiend said:
What car, problem and value?

Such info may lead to some good ideas... smile
OK - 1.8 MX5

Minor head gasket failure, but has an incorrect head fitted to the engine - has been in the hands of a bodgemaster at some point.

Value - I paid £1800 in April minus £250 I recouped from a hardtop. Spent in the region of £7-800 on it this year. Further repairs needed £700-1000.

WBAC valuation £850 frown
Ebay? honest description...

freenote

784 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Or maybe put it on an owners club with honest description. They'll know what they're getting themselves into.

vrsmxtb

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2,002 posts

157 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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theironduke said:
Ebay? honest description...
The right person might see the potential in it I suppose, a competent mechanic would probably be able to fix it for a fraction of the price I'm looking at. Annoying that going into Autumn/Winter is hardly prime MX5 territory, project vehicle or perfect runner...

Durzel

12,278 posts

169 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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eBay with "funny" description about a hairdressing career gone wrong? Could get loads of hits and consequently loads of bids too? hehe

Google [bot]

6,682 posts

182 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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freenote said:
Or maybe put it on an owners club with honest description. They'll know what they're getting themselves into.
I did exactly this with a supercharged MX5 I had via an MX5 forum. Sold it for half of what I paid with an honest description and no offers. It gave the opportunity for a fellow enthusiast with more time and skill than me the opportunity of a bargain, me the knowledge that the car would be enjoyed and no guilt. Sold the same day.

steve_bmw

1,590 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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list it on an owners forum, if the body is tidy it will sell as these people would know someone with a spare engine!

Failing that Ebay spares or repair! sold my last track day MR2 on there within 2 hours of listing it, Suspect head gasket fault, turned out the guy just wanted a good shell and was getting rid of the engine and box anyway!

I only got half its retail price but what was I going to do with a broken car clutering up my drive?

Cut your losses and move on smile

Petrolize

324 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Send it to a car auction?

sebhaque

6,408 posts

182 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Try www.wewantanycar.com - when I was selling my 1-series, WWAC offered me £2k above WBAC's offer, which put it just under (by about £300) the private sale value I was looking at getting.

Otherwise, a trade-in or stick it on Gumtree and let some mouthbreather take it.

craig2003

1,206 posts

207 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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sebhaque said:
Try www.wewantanycar.com - when I was selling my 1-series, WWAC offered me £2k above WBAC's offer, which put it just under (by about £300) the private sale value I was looking at getting.

Otherwise, a trade-in or stick it on Gumtree and let some mouthbreather take it.
I just done a quote with both WBAC & WWAC and there was a 2k difference also, WWAC being the higher of the two

Pig Skill

1,368 posts

204 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Hmmm

I would be in the same dilemma as you. I would want maximum return with a clear conscience. If you offloaded to the trade then some other person would eventually kop for it and tread the path you have.

I would consider breaking, it as often the sum of the parts is worth more than the whole. As others have suggested, post it on the bay with a full description. You will get some cash back.

maser_spyder

6,356 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Engines on eBay for c£200-£300 for a 1.8.

Half a day to swap, it's easy.

Sell old engine for spares - £50?

Strangely, an engine swap is normally easier than engine repairs. Disconnect everything, haul out, drop in, re-connect. It really is fairly straightforward.

Fish981

1,441 posts

186 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
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Ebay with a full description. There are some right numptys on there who'll see a car with faults, think 'oooh, I can fix that and it's gonna be cheap' and pay way over the odds 'cos they haven't checked the price of a non-broken one.