A4 S-Line diesel 140bhp or 170bhp?

A4 S-Line diesel 140bhp or 170bhp?

Author
Discussion

Alfa159Ti

Original Poster:

828 posts

158 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Hi chaps,

Yes I know we are talking diesels here - a dirty word on the PH forums.

I do quite a bit of business mileage but don't get car allowance or a company car. Looking to change my car and don't want to spend much more than £10k. A4 S-Lines around 2006/ 2007 are looking tempting.

It has to be S-Line and diesel and whatever I get will be getting remapped.

Being PHer naturally I am drawn more to the 170bhp, but there are a lot of 140bhps about quite a bit cheaper.

Does anyone have experience with these cars? Is the difference between the two only map-deep, or do the internals differ?

If I am getting a remap does this make the original power output largely academic anyway, or does the 170bhp remap further than the 140bhp?

Any advice gratefully received! Berating me about driving a diesel: not so much...

whistle

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Alfa159Ti said:
I do quite a bit of business mileage but don't get car allowance or a company car.
Are you employed or self employed? If the former, I don't understand why your employer would not cover the cost of your travelling on their behalf?

DLovett

329 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
320d.

RedWhiteMonkey

6,864 posts

183 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
I’m not 100% on this but I think the 140bhp and 170bhp outputs come from different engines, a 1.9l unit and a 2.0l unit respectively. As such, it would be more than just a remap to get the different power levels. I’d assume the 170bhp unit will map further than the 140bhp unit but I guess it all depends on whether you’re looking for power or economy.

Rich n Em

214 posts

165 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Your forum ID name would be my car of choice...

aka_kerrly

12,425 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
The 140 is said to be the more reliable engine and can still be remapped to circa 170hp.

RicksAlfas

13,423 posts

245 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Alfa159Ti said:
It has to be S-Line
I hope you only drive on billiard table smooth roads.
They have the most appalling ride of any modern car I've been in.


kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
140 and 170 are from the same 2.0 unit.

Both overall great cars. The 170 is more likely to suffer from DPF problems, and does not like regular short stop start journeys. If you spend a fair amount of time on the motorway/A roads this should be less of a concern.

A the OP previously mentioned there are many more 140's available thus making them cheaper.

My advise as always is to be open to either and buy the best car you can.

DLovett

329 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
RicksAlfas said:
I hope you only drive on billiard table smooth roads.
They have the most appalling ride of any modern car I've been in.
Try run-flats.

Matt UK

17,757 posts

201 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Alfa159Ti said:
It has to be S-Line
May one ask the question; why?

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Revo say...

140 remaps to 180, torque goes from 236 to 289.

170 remaps to 200, torque goes from 258 to 310.

So there must be a further difference... likely to be Turbo. But could be intake / exhaust.

If I was looking at one I'd just get the best car whether it was a 140 or 170... once remapped there's not going to be a great deal of difference!

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

211 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
RicksAlfas said:
Alfa159Ti said:
It has to be S-Line
I hope you only drive on billiard table smooth roads.
They have the most appalling ride of any modern car I've been in.
Ride quality is a very subjective thing. It depends how sensitive you are to firm suspension. Also what car you are changing from will be a factor.

My wife has a A4 Avant S Line and are both very happy with it. However if someone else said the ride was too firm for them, then that would be a very fair comment. You cant assume because you dont like it no one else will do either, or vice versa.


From my point of veiw as a trader I am mainly interested in what is likely to sell the quickest, and I would always choose an Audi S Line over SE. I guess that must mean the market seems to like them too.

James Dean

1,350 posts

166 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Matt UK said:
May one ask the question; why?
Because of the imagine. silly

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Matt UK said:
Alfa159Ti said:
It has to be S-Line
May one ask the question; why?
because he may not be aware that the sport spec is the pick of the three??

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
sleep envy said:
because he may not be aware that the sport spec is the pick of the three??
Or the S Line has the nicest interior, wheels and body kit!?

Just like saying an M Sport BMW.

Chrisw666

22,655 posts

200 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
For lots of miles out of my own wallet I would take a 140, in Sport or SE spec and wouldn't bother with a remap.

SteveS Cup

1,996 posts

161 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
Chrisw666 said:
For lots of miles out of my own wallet I would take a 140, in Sport or SE spec and wouldn't bother with a remap.
I'm sure he gets 40p per mile to cover fuel / wear. (if not, you can claim it back from the tax man at the end of the year).

XitUp

7,690 posts

205 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
10 Pence Short said:
Alfa159Ti said:
I do quite a bit of business mileage but don't get car allowance or a company car.
Are you employed or self employed? If the former, I don't understand why your employer would not cover the cost of your travelling on their behalf?
This.

and

Matt UK said:
Alfa159Ti said:
It has to be S-Line
May one ask the question; why?
This.

CraigyMc

16,476 posts

237 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
I've tried the 140 and the 170 in various cars.

The 140 is slower, and feels it (obviously) but is nicer to drive with a manual gearbox than the 170 is.

Reason?
The 140 has torque at idle. The 170 doesn't.

Can't believe how many times I stalled the 170 coming out of junctions...

XitUp

7,690 posts

205 months

Wednesday 21st September 2011
quotequote all
If you want a diesel for lots of miles you should really get an auto.