Changing a wheel.
Discussion
It's most likely rusted / fused to the hub. To remove:
1) put bricks underneath the suspension arm in case you kick the car off the jack.
2) If you have a heavy rubber mallet, use that to tap* the wheel at the top, bottom, either side, trying to get some leverage on the impact to pop it off the hub. If you can get around the inside of the wheel and still manage a healthy swing, all the better.
3) If there is no rubber mallet available, refer to point 1), then kick the wheel until it falls off. This has the added therapeutic advantage of venting your frustration directly on the cause.
*beat seven colours of crap out of...
1) put bricks underneath the suspension arm in case you kick the car off the jack.
2) If you have a heavy rubber mallet, use that to tap* the wheel at the top, bottom, either side, trying to get some leverage on the impact to pop it off the hub. If you can get around the inside of the wheel and still manage a healthy swing, all the better.
3) If there is no rubber mallet available, refer to point 1), then kick the wheel until it falls off. This has the added therapeutic advantage of venting your frustration directly on the cause.
*beat seven colours of crap out of...
Probably just rusted to the hub. Two options:
1. Tap it from behind with a lump of wood / rubber mallet etc etc - and be careful not to knock it off the jack (obv)
2. Put the nuts back on loosely, drop the car down and drive it a foot forwards and backwards - there'll probably be a bang as it frees itself.
The first route is the more sophisticated, the second has always (IME) been the more effective.
ETA... Beaten to it!
1. Tap it from behind with a lump of wood / rubber mallet etc etc - and be careful not to knock it off the jack (obv)
2. Put the nuts back on loosely, drop the car down and drive it a foot forwards and backwards - there'll probably be a bang as it frees itself.
The first route is the more sophisticated, the second has always (IME) been the more effective.
ETA... Beaten to it!
JonnyFive said:
It's what happens when a garage doesn't service cars properly, unfortunately.
Abit of grease on the hub, jobs a good'un.
Exactly. A bit of grease on the mounting face will make it easier to get off next time. (Also the grease should be lightly applied to the central hub of the brake disc which the inside face of the wheel will contact. You can use copper grease, and use sparingly as you don't want to get spillage on the friction faces of the brake disc of course!)Abit of grease on the hub, jobs a good'un.
We get it plenty of times, because it's not on the service check sheet.. It's not done. So you spend ages getting all 4 wheels off, with rubber mallets etc. A customer isn't going to have one of them at the side of the road, they'd have no chance.
If you use a little bit of grease, the wheel will come off with no problem.
OP, when you've got some time it might be worth getting them all off and greased.
If you use a little bit of grease, the wheel will come off with no problem.
OP, when you've got some time it might be worth getting them all off and greased.
JonnyFive said:
We get it plenty of times, because it's not on the service check sheet.. It's not done. So you spend ages getting all 4 wheels off, with rubber mallets etc. A customer isn't going to have one of them at the side of the road, they'd have no chance.
If you use a little bit of grease, the wheel will come off with no problem.
OP, when you've got some time it might be worth getting them all off and greased.
Same goes for when the nuts have been up by the garage airline, they can be too tight to get off using the emergency kit wrench included with most cars. So when you've had any wheel work done by a garge it's worth getting home then slackening and PROPERLY torquing the nuts to the correct tension per spec using a manual torque wrench. Then you'll be able to get them undone in an emergency if required.If you use a little bit of grease, the wheel will come off with no problem.
OP, when you've got some time it might be worth getting them all off and greased.
mrmr96 said:
Same goes for when the nuts have been up by the garage airline, they can be too tight to get off using the emergency kit wrench included with most cars. So when you've had any wheel work done by a garge it's worth getting home then slackening and PROPERLY torquing the nuts to the correct tension per spec using a manual torque wrench. Then you'll be able to get them undone in an emergency if required.
I once had a blowout on the M25, day after the car had been serviced. Got the wrench out of the boot and began trying to undo the nuts. Wasn't happening. Applied more pressure. The wrench began bending. Oh st.I had the embarrassment of having to call the AA to change a wheel. AA man duly arrives with a smirk and brings out his own wrench (about half as big again as mine). Much blue face later and he decides I'm not a puff in a tie and returns from his van with one 3 times as big. More blue face, then eventually they begin to give.
In other words, the advice above is good advice!
mrmr96 said:
Same goes for when the nuts have been up by the garage airline, they can be too tight to get off using the emergency kit wrench included with most cars. So when you've had any wheel work done by a garge it's worth getting home then slackening and PROPERLY torquing the nuts to the correct tension per spec using a manual torque wrench. Then you'll be able to get them undone in an emergency if required.
Yes, I had to use a 4ft long pole slid over my wheel wrench to get a nut undone after the garage had done them up! 10 Pence Short said:
Applied more pressure. The wrench began bending.
I had that happen several years back to, went and bought myself a heavy duty extendable wrench the next day. http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&...
Haven't had a puncture since.
Edited by RizzoTheRat on Saturday 24th September 11:59
Had this on my Mondeo a couple of months ago. Loosen the wheel nuts, judiciously apply half a can of WD40 betwix't wheel and hub, wait for it to soak in whilst hitting the wheel. Job done.
Alfanatic said:
then kick the wheel until it falls off. This has the added therapeutic advantage of venting your frustration directly on the cause.
so truemrmr96 said:
So when you've had any wheel work done by a garge it's worth getting home then slackening and PROPERLY torquing the nuts to the correct tension per spec using a manual torque wrench.
Better still don't use a garage that uses air guns.Take your car to a proper place that uses a torque
wrench and knows the correct setting for your car.
The cheapest place isn't always the best place.
My bmw is a bd to get the wheels off, even with a smear of grease.... Had to kick the absolute st out of the back wheels to get them off recently .
I had BMW change the discs under warranty a year or two ago and the nuts were sooooooo tight, way over tightened and that was from a main dealer
I had BMW change the discs under warranty a year or two ago and the nuts were sooooooo tight, way over tightened and that was from a main dealer
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