Ferrari F40 Nurburgring time?
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A mate of mine was going on about the Nissan R33 GTR (V-spec) being the first production car to lap the Ring in under 8 mins. Which got me thinking about how quick the F40 could get round, so I had a look and nowhere on the net could I find the time.
Looking at this video of an F40 at Tsukuba, which is tight and twisty, so a car with lots of lag like the F40 would be at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, it blitzes the R32 GTR, which was the second quickest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dvUhkdgMW4&fea...
Was the Ring time factor only bought in, in the 90's?
Looking at this video of an F40 at Tsukuba, which is tight and twisty, so a car with lots of lag like the F40 would be at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, it blitzes the R32 GTR, which was the second quickest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dvUhkdgMW4&fea...
Was the Ring time factor only bought in, in the 90's?
It probably could do it quicker than Skyline, when you consider the difference in build. One is a high powered street car, still nicely furnished, loaded with gadgets and technology. One is a lightweight frame and body, an engine, a seat and a steering wheel pretty much. Hardly surprising that the F40 is quicker round Tsukuba.
That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
So the only reason the R33 GTR took the accolade of being the first production car to break 8 mins, was because the F40 wasn't timed? A hollow victory no doubt, however I still tout the skyline's 4WD system as remarkable, and the fact that we're comparing it to a near race car like the F40 is testament to its effectiveness.
I've looked for the Ring time of the Porsche 959 and can't find this either. I expect this would have beaten the 8 minute barrier, perhaps only the tyre technology of the time being the prohibiting factor?
I've looked for the Ring time of the Porsche 959 and can't find this either. I expect this would have beaten the 8 minute barrier, perhaps only the tyre technology of the time being the prohibiting factor?
Mastodon2 said:
It probably could do it quicker than Skyline, when you consider the difference in build. One is a high powered street car, still nicely furnished, loaded with gadgets and technology. One is a lightweight frame and body, an engine, a seat and a steering wheel pretty much. Hardly surprising that the F40 is quicker round Tsukuba.
That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
You'd genuinely take a bog standard R32 GTR over an F40?!That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
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ApexJimi said:
Mastodon2 said:
It probably could do it quicker than Skyline, when you consider the difference in build. One is a high powered street car, still nicely furnished, loaded with gadgets and technology. One is a lightweight frame and body, an engine, a seat and a steering wheel pretty much. Hardly surprising that the F40 is quicker round Tsukuba.
That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
You'd genuinely take a That said, I'd want the 512TR over an F40, and I'd take a Skyline over both of those any day.
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I think it is a shade unfair to say other cars could do it quicker than the GTR but to prove it you would have to actually get your car onto the track. But equally James May may have had a point, why do manufacturers design their cars for stupidly fast laps of the ring if it then means the car is poorly set up for normal road use.
ApexJimi said:
You'd genuinely take a bog standard R32 GTR over an F40?!
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There are a hell of a lot of cars I'd take over an F40, assuming the rules of this game state that I can't sell the F40 to buy a load of other cars. I certainly wouldn't want the F40 sitting around taking up space in my garage when there are so many, many other cars I'd much rather own. I know some people treat the F40 like some sort of holy grail, but it does nothing for me.Nutter
thinfourth2 said:
If it was slower then a ford focus RS500 would you prefer to have the suped up shopping trolley in your garage
Nope, not really a fan of the RS500 either. I'm not that big on Ferraris in general tbh, but one of my favourites, the 512TR, was in that video. I'd love one of those, they have so much late 80s cool about them!Mastodon2 said:
There are a hell of a lot of cars I'd take over an F40, assuming the rules of this game state that I can't sell the F40 to buy a load of other cars. I certainly wouldn't want the F40 sitting around taking up space in my garage when there are so many, many other cars I'd much rather own. I know some people treat the F40 like some sort of holy grail, but it does nothing for me.
Mastodon2 said:
THe F50 is not treated with anywhere near as much reverence as the F40, whats the general opinion on which one is quicker?
In standard trim the F50 is quicker . . . the F40 was developed more during its racing life, so there are plenty of tweaks that make them a lot quicker . . . . I seem to remember in period that the F40's were as quick as the McLarens, just less fuel efficient and less reliable.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff