RE: Mr Big Stuff News: Go Green With Big Trucks
Discussion
School boy said:
M Powered said:
Sorry, the clue is in your user ID. CO2 is proportional to fuel consumed. CO2 will not go down if fuel consumed increases.
Thank you for your polite response. Next time you get something wrong please be aware I will blow it out of proportion and find something to be rude about. I might be thinking of Nox emissions instead but am sure I have read this in the HGV press which is why AdBlue and other techniques are used but I may be wrongSchool boy said:
Thank you for your polite response. Next time you get something wrong please be aware I will blow it out of proportion and find something to be rude about. I might be thinking of Nox emissions instead but am sure I have read this in the HGV press which is why AdBlue and other techniques are used but I may be wrong
Didn't mean to appear rude, maybe a bit dry. You are probably thinking of NOx emissions which are likely to be legislated down significantly, prompting the use of some exhaust after-treatment technologies which may increase fuel consumed. This is where local environmental concerns (NOx and HC's) conflict? with wider environmental concerns (CO2/greenhouse effect).From what I've read any proposals for bigger trucks (LHV's) are based on an increase on the vehicle length and number of axles that will spread the weight over a greater area, for example the prototype produced by a company called Denby recently consisting of a tractor unit pulling two trailers. Also bear in mind that a lot of heavy haulage trucks have similar power outputs to higher end normal trucks and easily pull considerably heavier loads.
To me a combination of ideas seems to be the logical solution with larger modes of transport (LHV's, trains etc) transferring goods to smaller urban vehicles such as those being trialled in Holland at the moment (more compact urban orientated trucks) at regional hubs.
I think the comment on the state of the roads is fair. Currently our roads seem to deteriorate rapidly and on occasion disintegrate with exceptional weather conditions which seems to indicate a poor quality of construction.
To me a combination of ideas seems to be the logical solution with larger modes of transport (LHV's, trains etc) transferring goods to smaller urban vehicles such as those being trialled in Holland at the moment (more compact urban orientated trucks) at regional hubs.
I think the comment on the state of the roads is fair. Currently our roads seem to deteriorate rapidly and on occasion disintegrate with exceptional weather conditions which seems to indicate a poor quality of construction.
I saw two trucks carrying massive quarry type dumper trucks earlier this week with a van escort shielding lane 2 - so three lane motorway down to 1 lane. Not great during rush hour. I guess if they can, they will travel during the day but it has to be safer overall during the night.
As for the tramlines on the motorway, aren't the trucks taxed heavily enough to cover the cost of repairs to the motorway? Isn't it just a case of the government taking 90% plus of the income and spending it on tosh rather than our roads. grrr, separate argument.
As for the tramlines on the motorway, aren't the trucks taxed heavily enough to cover the cost of repairs to the motorway? Isn't it just a case of the government taking 90% plus of the income and spending it on tosh rather than our roads. grrr, separate argument.
I suspect you will find only a % of trucks are contributing to UK maintenance costs etc - a scary number of trucks come from overseas and as far as I know pay nothing, even running extra fuel tanks to avoid our fuel tax - but when a brit truck travels in France, Austria etc they have to pay local taxes or tolls. It's because we have a strange view that it helps UK competitiveness to minimise costs even if we are offshoring the work....
jbi said:
does that mean we will finally start seeing some proper volvo trucks in the UK?
Not unless they increase the length allowed, currently 16.5m maximum train length. Most operators will choose a flat fronted cab to allow for the longest trailer possible. Although I have seen a few bullnose Scania trucks doing quarry work.theJT said:
Ooohhh, that takes me back... 
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with regards to people wanting more freight moved by rail, sounds a great idea, but its been tried before, and thus far, hasn't really worked, lets face it, alot of new trains get delivered, and moved around by road, on the backs of lorries because its more practical and cost effective. you have to remember, that at some point all goods will have to spend time on the back of a lorry. a train is great for long distant freight journeys, but it will still end up at a big rail hub somewhere, where the lorry will then take over.
when was the last time you saw a train delivering your bread to your local, tescos etc.
when was the last time you saw a train delivering your bread to your local, tescos etc.
crmcatee said:
Riggers - I'll see your big truck and raise you this. 
Same size truck - bigger trailer. 
Anyway, at least that is a decent truck - the ones in Oz and NZ seem to make sense (B doubles, B triples and road trains), and actually follow very well considering how big they are. Running B doubles (ie 2 trailers) between motorway linked depots should be feasible, the axle weights are the same or less than the current artic's and there is no more power up front than what they use currently. Only trouble would be when there was a diversion, you wouldnt get them through Ipswich city centre for example.
There is nothing which compares to settling into a nice Kenworth cab and doing a bit of road train driving.... the luxary of the seat, the wood dash, the smell.....mmmm.
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