Excess noise from an HGV

Excess noise from an HGV

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Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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GC8 said:
The weight limit isnt relevant if the driver has access. I doubt that the site agent will be interested, even if he makes the right noises: a sh*t shifter will be subcontracting, probably to a firm that is subcontracted to the developer and its not as if he is actually doing anything wrong.

The realproblem is the silly speed bumps, but you could try calling the carrier (presuming that their number is on the door) and asking if theyll ask the driver to slow down over the bumps. If the number isnt there then Id suggest gritting your teeth as it wont last for long.
We get constant letters at work from site head offices re: routes.If people keep ignoring the planned ones, we will be banned from entering the sites and the company can be fined.The same goes for breaking delivery time restrictions.It really depends on who is doing the building and whether they are signed up to the link mentioned earlier etc.I have a close friend who is a site agent and they have regular meetings with residents over such matters.

Chainguy

4,381 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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RWD cossie wil said:
fatboy b said:
What a tt!
Sorry, but the OP is being massivly over sensitive here, it won't be at unsociable hours, and will last for seconds at a time!
Some of us need to occasionally sleep during the day friend. So, I can see the OP's point 100%

The job I do, I need to be pretty sharp when I go to work. Which can be any time of the day. I dont function so well on a broken sleep any more, especially if it's bad enough to make my eardrums hurt, as per the OP's descrition. A lot of people on here I'd say are the same.

I think he has a valid point, and I hope he gets it sorted.

RWD cossie wil

4,319 posts

174 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Chainguy said:
Some of us need to occasionally sleep during the day friend. So, I can see the OP's point 100%

The job I do, I need to be pretty sharp when I go to work. Which can be any time of the day. I dont function so well on a broken sleep any more, especially if it's bad enough to make my eardrums hurt, as per the OP's descrition. A lot of people on here I'd say are the same.

I think he has a valid point, and I hope he gets it sorted.
I lived on an airforce base near the end of the runway for the best part of 11 years, try sleeping with Tornados, Hercules, VC10's and every other military aircraft you can name buzzing past your windown all day every day! Sorry, but a HGV passing for 5 seconds a couple of times a day is hardly that bad, I do appreciate it could be annoying, but I think he is on a hiding to nothing here. By all means have a word, but I would imagine the shame of walking across a building site with everyone from the foreman to the brickies in fits of laughter would provide more restless nights than the occasional HGV!

Chainguy

4,381 posts

201 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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^^^^^Fair do's mate, I'm just getting old. These days I need my 7 hours, or else I'm like a bag of spanners by day 4 of on crew.

Still hope he gets it sorted though.

Anyways, RB211s are music, not noise, you lucky sod!

Digby

8,243 posts

247 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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RWD cossie wil said:
I lived on an airforce base near the end of the runway for the best part of 11 years, try sleeping with Tornados, Hercules, VC10's and every other military aircraft you can name buzzing past your windown all day every day! Sorry, but a HGV passing for 5 seconds a couple of times a day is hardly that bad, I do appreciate it could be annoying, but I think he is on a hiding to nothing here. By all means have a word, but I would imagine the shame of walking across a building site with everyone from the foreman to the brickies in fits of laughter would provide more restless nights than the occasional HGV!
I know what you are saying, but that's like living next to a motorway etc.If the noise is almost constant, it can become less annoying than having your peace and quiet ruined a handful of times a day.If someone stands behind you shouting "BOO" every 60 seconds, as annoying as it is, you will get quite accustomed to the sound.If they creep up and do it randomly three or four times a day, it will probably make you jump out of your skin and annoy even more!

I still say check with the site re: the routing.If they are as strict as the sites we deal with, your problem could end overnight.

Life Saab Itch

37,068 posts

189 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Blokey in the truck probably doesn't realise how loud it is.

You don't hear a lot when driving. Sometimes I don't hear sirens until they're almost upon me, I see the lights in the mirror, but can't hear them.

This will be worse if he drives a DAF or Iveco as the sound-proofing isn't up to much.

Flagging him down with a few cans of beer would seem like a good way to go. thumbup

lost in espace

6,164 posts

208 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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"new building site" see if they are part of the considerate contractor scheme http://www.ccscheme.org.uk/

Otherwise a letter to their MD should help?

Petemate

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1,674 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Digby said:
I feel for you.The noise from such things can actually make me jump! I work in and around building sites quite often and the noise is similar to someone dropping half a dozen skips from a rooftop! (no, not the crisps).BANG BANG BANG bang bang...first ramp...BANG BANG BANG bang bang...second ramp..

Ten ramps later..
Digby said:
We get constant letters at work from site head offices re: routes.If people keep ignoring the planned ones, we will be banned from entering the sites and the company can be fined.The same goes for breaking delivery time restrictions.It really depends on who is doing the building and whether they are signed up to the link mentioned earlier etc.I have a close friend who is a site agent and they have regular meetings with residents over such matters.
Thanks for your support. On reflection, perhaps I'm being picky but the truck does go through at quite a rate - and we are next but 3 properties to a school. Not good.

Digby said:
I know what you are saying, but that's like living next to a motorway etc.If the noise is almost constant, it can become less annoying than having your peace and quiet ruined a handful of times a day.If someone stands behind you shouting "BOO" every 60 seconds, as annoying as it is, you will get quite accustomed to the sound.If they creep up and do it randomly three or four times a day, it will probably make you jump out of your skin and annoy even more!

I still say check with the site re: the routing.If they are as strict as the sites we deal with, your problem could end overnight.
Spot on Digby - years ago (1960) we lived in an upstairs flat on the main road in Deddington, before the M40 - it was one of the main routes to London from B/ham. The lorries used to go through all night; our bedroom was at the front; there was no double glazing and there were obviously no speed humps. Dead right - a constant hum is no bother. But this bloody racket actually makes my ears HURT!

GC8 said:
The weight limit isnt relevant if the driver has access. I doubt that the site agent will be interested, even if he makes the right noises: a sh*t shifter will be subcontracting, probably to a firm that is subcontracted to the developer and its not as if he is actually doing anything wrong.

The realproblem is the silly speed bumps, but you could try calling the carrier (presuming that their number is on the door) and asking if theyll ask the driver to slow down over the bumps. If the number isnt there then Id suggest gritting your teeth as it wont last for long.
Fair comments. It does look the sort of truck where the driver works for someone who works for someone who.......

Chainguy said:
Some of us need to occasionally sleep during the day friend. So, I can see the OP's point 100%

The job I do, I need to be pretty sharp when I go to work. Which can be any time of the day. I dont function so well on a broken sleep any more, especially if it's bad enough to make my eardrums hurt, as per the OP's descrition. A lot of people on here I'd say are the same.

I think he has a valid point, and I hope he gets it sorted.
Cheers Chainguy. I have to say that I am not just thinking of me; there are many elderly folk living in our village, and it must be a nightmare for all of them over the whole of the through road.

Life Saab Itch said:
Blokey in the truck probably doesn't realise how loud it is.

You don't hear a lot when driving. Sometimes I don't hear sirens until they're almost upon me, I see the lights in the mirror, but can't hear them.

This will be worse if he drives a DAF or Iveco as the sound-proofing isn't up to much.

Flagging him down with a few cans of beer would seem like a good way to go. thumbup
The truck is actually a MAN. Right rough looking old thing - up to now I haven't had the chance to get the reg (it goes past a bit quick you see.....)
The beers seem like a good idea, but knowing my luck he'll probably be a whisky drinker lol

lost in espace said:
"new building site" see if they are part of the considerate contractor scheme http://www.ccscheme.org.uk/

Otherwise a letter to their MD should help?
Many thanks for that positive post. I will see what can be done on Tuesday (first of my next four off) I do realise that there are always two sides to any situation.

Pete AKA V. Meldrew

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I do feel the OP does have a point, i grew up living beside a main road so i dont particularly hear traffic anymore, if anything i notice when its quiet. But the point is just because its during the day doesnt mean its not an issue, plenty of people work nights and in general whether its day or night everyone should do their best to cause minimal disruption to other people, if its unavoidable then its unavoidable. Ive had builders working a couple of doors down from me for a couple of months, building some sort of extension or garage (badly) and when i had to do an overnight drive recently and sleep during the day they were incredibly annoying, especially as i know they didnt have to make that much noise. They had an interesting way of getting rubble into the skip (chucking it off the roof). That sort of thing.




R0G

4,986 posts

156 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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If you know the company which the tipper belongs to then a nice polite phone call is the first step

No joy with phone call then the laws on noise can be looked in to as there is a decibel limit

philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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You say it's unnecessary noise, but it's no more unnecessary than it making a 2 mile longer trip 10x a day... 20 miles at 10mpg (at the most) that's around an extra £12 a day, 6 days a week is £72. This is very rough maths but maybe you should go speak to whoever fuels the truck, offer them the £72 and they might look at taking the longer route.

dazco

4,280 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Classic case of NIMBY.

The poster even gives instructions of whose back yard to go to biglaugh

Leptons

5,114 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I could sympathise with the OP as much as I'm tempeted to take the piss. The noise those things make is similar to hitting a steel table with a hammer. In other words fking awfull!

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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philmots said:
You say it's unnecessary noise, but it's no more unnecessary than it making a 2 mile longer trip 10x a day... 20 miles at 10mpg (at the most) that's around an extra £12 a day, 6 days a week is £72. This is very rough maths but maybe you should go speak to whoever fuels the truck, offer them the £72 and they might look at taking the longer route.
That is a good point, that adds about another 4 grand to the diesel bill just for that one truck per year!

Petemate

Original Poster:

1,674 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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dazco said:
Classic case of NIMBY.

The poster even gives instructions of whose back yard to go to biglaugh
Nimby? Yes, but I would re-title that NIATBYITA&KR (stands for Not In All The Back Yards In The Avenue & Kennington Road)
However, I continue to be grateful to those who are sympathising as opposed to those who are mocking.
wavey

Edited for the removal of address details, as although PHers are mostly good-natured motoring petrol-headed nutters, I don't want to attract any nutters of somehwat different nature....... wink




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Edited by Petemate on Sunday 9th October 16:05

martin84

5,366 posts

154 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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I think most can see your point but if its a choice between 4 grand a year extra in fuel on that one route or inconvenience a couple of villagers then it has to be the latter. Theres just no choice. In 'these tough economic times' as they say you cant be throwing money away needlessly. Even mid sized haulage firms have diesel bills of £50million annually and even if all their trucks did 1 extra mile each per day that wasnt neccessary that adds up to a huge amount of money, business breaking sort of money.

R0G

4,986 posts

156 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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If a resident informed me of the issue then as a former LGV driver I would go more slowly over the humps to reduce the noise - it would only be a matter of seconds lost

Petemate

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1,674 posts

192 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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R0G said:
If a resident informed me of the issue then as a former LGV driver I would go more slowly over the humps to reduce the noise - it would only be a matter of seconds lost
Nice one Rog - I will be going that route (probably initially via the office) on Tues.

66comanche

2,369 posts

160 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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You're miles from the road! Nice flowers though. biggrin

Can't you blockade the road with your caravan, perhaps with a painted map of your proposed route on the side?


philmots

4,631 posts

261 months

Sunday 9th October 2011
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Petemate said:
R0G said:
If a resident informed me of the issue then as a former LGV driver I would go more slowly over the humps to reduce the noise - it would only be a matter of seconds lost
Nice one Rog - I will be going that route (probably initially via the office) on Tues.
I'd use ROG's advice, but not via the office.