RE: Driven: BMW 640d Coupe
Discussion
Still loving mine (over my lease miles already, oops!).
It's easy to get very used to such instant go. Had some sort of Insignia SRi as a hire car in Edinburgh this weekend. Christ it was gutless!!
Really struggling to find any downsides with this car. Great if you just want to cruise or potter, picks up its heals if you want to go. Doesn't even sound bad, and the rev range is quite wide by diesel standards.
My mpg has dropped a bit due to enjoying it too much - but still a smidge under 40mpg, which really is pretty amazing for a large GT type car.
It's easy to get very used to such instant go. Had some sort of Insignia SRi as a hire car in Edinburgh this weekend. Christ it was gutless!!
Really struggling to find any downsides with this car. Great if you just want to cruise or potter, picks up its heals if you want to go. Doesn't even sound bad, and the rev range is quite wide by diesel standards.
My mpg has dropped a bit due to enjoying it too much - but still a smidge under 40mpg, which really is pretty amazing for a large GT type car.
Update on mine. Lots that I love about it, grunt, lavish ride, fuel consumption etc, but it is driving me nuts. I wont have another car (particularly of this type) where the stop-start cant be permanently switched off and its a pain in the arse in car parks. It's wider than the S Class I had and as the doors are a mile and a half long its a nightmare to get in and out of.
Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
dabber said:
Update on mine. Lots that I love about it, grunt, lavish ride, fuel consumption etc, but it is driving me nuts. I wont have another car (particularly of this type) where the stop-start cant be permanently switched off and its a pain in the arse in car parks. It's wider than the S Class I had and as the doors are a mile and a half long its a nightmare to get in and out of.
Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
how hard is it to turn the stop/start off?Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
dabber said:
Update on mine. Lots that I love about it, grunt, lavish ride, fuel consumption etc, but it is driving me nuts. I wont have another car (particularly of this type) where the stop-start cant be permanently switched off and its a pain in the arse in car parks. It's wider than the S Class I had and as the doors are a mile and a half long its a nightmare to get in and out of.
Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
I agree that stop/start does not fit with a big GT car - it's more of a hatchback thing. I have pretty much got used to it though - if I'm in the situation where I want to be sure the engine is running (going for a gap for example) then a small move of the steering wheel prompts a restart. Can't say I'm finding it too big though, but it is a fraction smaller than the A6 I had been driving.Consumption is about 36 mpg from the start, mainly urban miles. It will get to 45 'on a run'.
chrisx666 said:
I agree that stop/start does not fit with a big GT car - it's more of a hatchback thing. I have pretty much got used to it though - if I'm in the situation where I want to be sure the engine is running (going for a gap for example) then a small move of the steering wheel prompts a restart. Can't say I'm finding it too big though, but it is a fraction smaller than the A6 I had been driving.
I have a new 125d auto and the auto start/stop drives me nuts as well - it's really been very poorly conceived for the automatics - BMW should have left it on the manual only or as you say, provided the option to permanently disable it.Why do people think it is poorly setup?
On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
edo said:
Why do people think it is poorly setup?
On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
I haven't noticed its 'pressure' sensitive - as far as I'm aware it always cuts out when you come to a halt with the brake depressed (even lightly). So my bugbear is that I pull up at a junction, pause for more than about 3 seconds for a gap and then it cuts out on you. Yes it starts again quickly enough but it just feels a bit crap to have it cut out unnecessarily, sometimes for merely seconds and this can only serve to increase wear on certain components. It would be much better to have some control over it, at the very least your decision to disable it should persist in each driving mode.On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
Also it deactivates automatically if the car senses you are 'creeping' in traffic. Which means that you join the back of a queue, the first two times you come to a stop momentarily it cuts out / starts again, detects you are in traffic and disables itself, then you approach a red light and sit there for 2 minutes with the engine running.
theboss said:
edo said:
Why do people think it is poorly setup?
On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
I haven't noticed its 'pressure' sensitive - as far as I'm aware it always cuts out when you come to a halt with the brake depressed (even lightly). So my bugbear is that I pull up at a junction, pause for more than about 3 seconds for a gap and then it cuts out on you. Yes it starts again quickly enough but it just feels a bit crap to have it cut out unnecessarily, sometimes for merely seconds and this can only serve to increase wear on certain components. It would be much better to have some control over it, at the very least your decision to disable it should persist in each driving mode.On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
theboss said:
edo said:
Why do people think it is poorly setup?
On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
I haven't noticed its 'pressure' sensitive - as far as I'm aware it always cuts out when you come to a halt with the brake depressed (even lightly). So my bugbear is that I pull up at a junction, pause for more than about 3 seconds for a gap and then it cuts out on you. Yes it starts again quickly enough but it just feels a bit crap to have it cut out unnecessarily, sometimes for merely seconds and this can only serve to increase wear on certain components. It would be much better to have some control over it, at the very least your decision to disable it should persist in each driving mode.On mine, if I hold the car lightly on the brake (say waiting to pull out at a roundabout) it doesnt stop. Hold it firmly, or put the car in park, it stops. Moving steering, lifting brake or touching throttle starts it so fast it doesnt make any difference to pull away speed.
Also it deactivates automatically if the car senses you are 'creeping' in traffic. Which means that you join the back of a queue, the first two times you come to a stop momentarily it cuts out / starts again, detects you are in traffic and disables itself, then you approach a red light and sit there for 2 minutes with the engine running.
Blown2CV said:
touch of a rapist? stamping all over the pedals like michael flatley on meth?
not in the slightest - I just don't believe its pressure sensitive as I never apply much braking force when I'm sat stationary in an auto. I will refrain from disabling it by default as I have done since the car was about a week old, and conduct some tests on the way home this evening.I just think its a s
t implementation - they could easily have provided the option to disable it or just given you an override via a steering wheel button so you could have some control over when it activates (as you can in a manual)Part of my morning run involves creep up to an uphill crossroads where you need to boot it to get across. Sods law says it cuts out just as you are about to give it some and it makes takeoff very lumpy at best. Yes you can disable it each time you start it but the orange warning light ain't half bright.
Daft really when such a well executed car otherwise has one point that makes it bloody annoying to drive!
Daft really when such a well executed car otherwise has one point that makes it bloody annoying to drive!
edo said:
I've tested the "soft brake" today and it works perfectly. Easy to brake soft enough so it doesn't cut out whilst holding the car stationary.
I tested it too but it was sporadic... I'm talking about 'just' enough brake pressure to hold the car stationary. Sometimes it cut out and other times it didn't. I have a feeling if you creep up to a halt gently enough the car thinks you are creeping in slow-moving traffic and disables the feature for that reason rather than because you are 'soft braking'.I have had my 640d for 6 months now and pleased to say that I am within the lease mileage, at just over 1700 now. She is a lovely car in every respect but I would say you would have to be certifiable to pay £67000 for one! It certainly turns heads though. Being a tight fisted git, mine spends most of its time in "eco pro" mode and has about 43mpg indicated on the OBC.
mercGLowner said:
I have had my 640d for 6 months now and pleased to say that I am within the lease mileage, at just over 1700 now. She is a lovely car in every respect but I would say you would have to be certifiable to pay £67000 for one! It certainly turns heads though. Being a tight fisted git, mine spends most of its time in "eco pro" mode and has about 43mpg indicated on the OBC.
so you've done 1700 miles in 6 months, and you bought the diesel? just out of curiosity....why?Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff