RE: Driven: BMW 640d Coupe

[edo]

mercGLowner said:

I'm only up to 3300 miles in my 640d M Sport since I acquired it 7.5 months ago on the BMW lease. I have spent a little more time away from home than I envisaged this year with no need for the car. It's going to work out quite expensive per mile at this rate! Beautiful car though and effortless to drive and a lovely place to sit. My MPG is sitting around the 44 mark.

I'm heading over my miles, so we can swap for a few months if you like!!

[dabber]

Well that's my lease done. Summary - beautiful car, fantastic to drive in the right circumstances, but I don't think I'll miss it due to its bulk around town and I never did get fully used to the stop/start.

lease deal was good value particularly as its going back with all four original tyres. No reliability issues whatsoever and in generally urban driving it has returned 37 mpg. Looks like its going straight into a BCA auction so a bargain there for someone.

What's next for me? Just going to run the 04 Boxster that has been sat in the garage doing nothing (less than 6k/pa) and the Defender.

Finally why don't BMW have the gumption to try and get me into some other crazy lease deal? No contact from the selling dealer at all. Now a 135i might tick a few boxes

[Wills2]

edo said:

They were overpriced to start with. Think they will find their level.

Just coming up to 9,000 miles in mine.

Could have cried yesterday when I curbed an alloy on the frankly ludicrously narrow marlow bridge in Bucks.

I did the same in my old 911 when it was only a week old that is a seriously stupid bridge entrance!

[edo]

dabber said:

Well that's my lease done. Summary - beautiful car, fantastic to drive in the right circumstances, but I don't think I'll miss it due to its bulk around town and I never did get fully used to the stop/start.

lease deal was good value particularly as its going back with all four original tyres. No reliability issues whatsoever and in generally urban driving it has returned 37 mpg. Looks like its going straight into a BCA auction so a bargain there for someone.

What's next for me? Just going to run the 04 Boxster that has been sat in the garage doing nothing (less than 6k/pa) and the Defender.

Finally why don't BMW have the gumption to try and get me into some other crazy lease deal? No contact from the selling dealer at all. Now a 135i might tick a few boxes

Still running mine, just hit 19k, and running at 39mpg. Another year to go yet. (30 month lease).

Some silly deals out there on M5's - seen a few at 599 inc vat for 2 years with 10k PA.

Edited by edo on Wednesday 2nd October 22:45

[markda]

If I didn't have 3 x children I'd be driving a 640d for sure, couple of colleagues have them and rave about them! Instead I drive an X5 40d, lovely car but not quite up there on the desirability of the 6 series, but even that big lump with its xDrive still returns about 26-28 mpg urban, 33-35 mpg combined and 39-41 mpg extra-urban. Great engine!

[Wills2]

thewheelman said:

This makes me laugh, not one person that i know would buy a £60k coupe with mpg as the most important thing. Which those costs are negated by the huge depreciation.

For similar money i'd take an RS5, not give a crap about mpg, & enjoy everything about the car. As for driving in Europe, i do that frequently, & it's never once bothered me to refuel.

All i see here is a load of cliches about "wafting" places, & people that probably travel across Europe maybe once or twice in a lifetime. As for best GT car? That's a pathetic statement to make if you've not tried it yourself, & all of its competition.

Not sure I'd agree with all of that, when doing a few miles range and MPG are for some an increasingly important part of the buying decision the range/peformance combo the 640d gives you is becoming a more compelling argument.

I recently drove to Luxembourg in my M3 from Yorkshire it was perfect for the job but a bit thirsty, but I'm sure the 640d would have been lovely too.

Plenty of people with a few quid quite like to save a bit too.

[Selmer Mk6]

I find it interesting that the majority of the 6 series sold are diesels. A friend of mine has a 645 which has a glorious surge of power. As fast as the diesels are, somehow I doubt it compares with a V8!

Well I suppose fuel economy is the overriding factor these days whether you cover large mileages or not. I wonder how many miles the diesel owners cover per year?

[Selmer Mk6]

I find it interesting that the majority of the 6 series sold are diesels. A friend of mine has a 645 which has a glorious surge of power. As fast as the diesels are, somehow I doubt it compares with a V8!

Well I suppose fuel economy is the overriding factor these days whether you cover large mileages or not. I wonder how many miles the diesel owners cover per year?

[edo]

A 640d is quicker to 60 than the 40i, massively quicker in gear, only 20hp down on power and masses more torque. They dont even sound that bad. Half the range again. No brainer.

[E38Ross]

edo said:

A 640d is quicker to 60 than the 40i, massively quicker in gear, only 20hp down on power and masses more torque. They dont even sound that bad. Half the range again. No brainer.

They aren't actually massively quicker in gear than the turbo charged petrol engines, and I think they're the same to 60.

Either way, it sure ain't ad quick as the V8!

[edo]

E38Ross said:

edo said:

A 640d is quicker to 60 than the 40i, massively quicker in gear, only 20hp down on power and masses more torque. They dont even sound that bad. Half the range again. No brainer.

They aren't actually massively quicker in gear than the turbo charged petrol engines, and I think they're the same to 60.

Either way, it sure ain't ad quick as the V8!

Well, no but then the V8 is £6k+ more expensive to start with. Take a drive of a 40d engine (an any of the cars it is used in) it's a peach.

I am aware of course that some people wont change their views, and some do very small miles so have no need for a diesel.

That said, it isnt just about the mpg and the tax bracket, it is about the way they deliver their performance in the REAL world, the range and so on. I was able to do Lancashire and back without a fill; not something you could do in the 50i..

[phib]

Wills2 said:

thewheelman said:

This makes me laugh, not one person that i know would buy a £60k coupe with mpg as the most important thing. Which those costs are negated by the huge depreciation.

For similar money i'd take an RS5, not give a crap about mpg, & enjoy everything about the car. As for driving in Europe, i do that frequently, & it's never once bothered me to refuel.

All i see here is a load of cliches about "wafting" places, & people that probably travel across Europe maybe once or twice in a lifetime. As for best GT car? That's a pathetic statement to make if you've not tried it yourself, & all of its competition.

Not sure I'd agree with all of that, when doing a few miles range and MPG are for some an increasingly important part of the buying decision the range/peformance combo the 640d gives you is becoming a more compelling argument.

I recently drove to Luxembourg in my M3 from Yorkshire it was perfect for the job but a bit thirsty, but I'm sure the 640d would have been lovely too.

Plenty of people with a few quid quite like to save a bit too.

I do 30k a year in a £60k BMW (7 unfortunately) and care about mpg .... Maybe I am target market !!

Phib

[mercGLowner]

My lease 640d M Sport went back to BMW two weeks ago, replaced by an E70 X5 35d M Sport. The 640d was a peach of a car, I averaged about 44mpg over 8000 miles.

[E38Ross]

edo said:

E38Ross said:

edo said:

A 640d is quicker to 60 than the 40i, massively quicker in gear, only 20hp down on power and masses more torque. They dont even sound that bad. Half the range again. No brainer.

They aren't actually massively quicker in gear than the turbo charged petrol engines, and I think they're the same to 60.

Either way, it sure ain't ad quick as the V8!

Well, no but then the V8 is £6k+ more expensive to start with. Take a drive of a 40d engine (an any of the cars it is used in) it's a peach.

I am aware of course that some people wont change their views, and some do very small miles so have no need for a diesel.

That said, it isnt just about the mpg and the tax bracket, it is about the way they deliver their performance in the REAL world, the range and so on. I was able to do Lancashire and back without a fill; not something you could do in the 50i..

i agree, a nice range is always a plus point, i'm consistently getting over 500 miles from my E38 which is nice but largely because the tank is pretty big. The current crop of diesel engines don't produce better "in gear" acceleration over their turbo charged counter-parts now, because the petrol engines are turbo charged, though, the rpm is a little higher but if the gear ratios are set so they meet the same road speed at max rpm there really is very little difference between the 2.

each very good for their intended purposes. the 40d engine does sound good, but not quite this good (IMO)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGqBfvND3HU

[Selmer Mk6]

The new diesel vehicles maybe a lot better now, but as my annual mileage is low, I will stick with the V8 for now.

[isv]

Selmer Mk6 said:

I find it interesting that the majority of the 6 series sold are diesels. A friend of mine has a 645 which has a glorious surge of power. As fast as the diesels are, somehow I doubt it compares with a V8!

Well I suppose fuel economy is the overriding factor these days whether you cover large mileages or not. I wonder how many miles the diesel owners cover per year?

What I find remarkable about these consumption figures is how unremarkable they are, compared to a modern petrol. I nearly bought a 640d, ended up in a new SL350 instead. Only 500 miles on the clock yet I‘m averaging 37mpg, and can get 40 mpg on a steady motorway run.

I thought my 3.5L V6 petrol was going to really drink the fuel, but seems like anything but.