Considering an Alfa GTV Turbo

Considering an Alfa GTV Turbo

Poll: Considering an Alfa GTV Turbo

Total Members Polled: 43

Alfa Romeo 156 1.9 JTD SW: 0%
Alfa Romeo GTV 2.0 V6 Turbo: 37%
Lotus Elise S1: 63%
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Discussion

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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You made your concessions to practicality with the 156. Time to try the Elise. thumbup

They're a lot easier to live with than some imagine and are well worth the compromise.

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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I know of several people who've owned and driven quite exotic and special cars and rate the Elise as the best driver's car they've ever driven. I haven't been quite so lucky, but I have driven a number of nice cars, and I agree. Therefore the question here is whether you can live with the lack of creature comforts of an Elise (especially the S1, which has that tiresome hood...), or would rather have the "get in and go" appeal of the Alfa. That's a question only you can answer really.

Dave_ST220

10,296 posts

206 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Get the Alfa so we can all be educated as to how good the V6 turbo is wink

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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OP have you considered a VX220? Slightly more easy to live with than an S1 Elise, but with all the same handling/driving traits and very similar ability.

LuS1fer

41,141 posts

246 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Why not a 3.0 V6 GTV then?

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

256 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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As much as I love the GTV, if the Elise was within my budget I wouldn't be considering the Alfa for a second. Not only is the driving experience nicer than a nose heavy FWD car, the fuel economy will be significantly better. Creature comforts and practicality not so great however, but if you can live with that then you need some Lotus in your life.

Cunning Punt

486 posts

154 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Dave_ST220 said:
Get the Alfa so we can all be educated as to how good the V6 turbo is wink
Not as good as a 3.0, apparently: there's less torque, the turbo mutes the engine noise (which is criminal in a Busso) and the blowers tend to fail at 60k.

Or so I've read.

Plenty of TBs around for €2-3k in France. 3.0s start at double that.

'punt

braddo

10,522 posts

189 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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RobM77 said:
I know of several people who've owned and driven quite exotic and special cars and rate the Elise as the best driver's car they've ever driven. I haven't been quite so lucky, but I have driven a number of nice cars, and I agree. Therefore the question here is whether you can live with the lack of creature comforts of an Elise (especially the S1, which has that tiresome hood...), or would rather have the "get in and go" appeal of the Alfa. That's a question only you can answer really.
A hardtop (and correctly aligned windows) makes the S1 watertight and warm. smile

I'm ambivalent about open-top motoring so I rarely drove my Elise with the soft top or with no roof at all.

Alfanatic

9,339 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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I voted for the Elise, I can't say that's the GTV I'd go for, to be honest. It's a compromise compared to a 3.0, but then again, I don't know how easy it is to find 3.0s in Belgium, but even then, if you want a sportscar, the Elise is the choice for me, lovely as that V6 engine is.

Riknos

4,700 posts

205 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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..The poll vote is unanimous..

Get it bought!

DrTre

12,955 posts

233 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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LuS1fer said:
Why not a 3.0 V6 GTV then?
The op stated beneficial tax reasons in Belgium, which where I assume they live

soxboy

6,289 posts

220 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
OP have you considered a VX220? Slightly more easy to live with than an S1 Elise, but with all the same handling/driving traits and very similar ability.
He's in Belgium don't forget, it's the Opel Speedster over there (and is over 2 litres in N/A form so may have the same tax issues).

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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soxboy said:
300bhp/ton said:
OP have you considered a VX220? Slightly more easy to live with than an S1 Elise, but with all the same handling/driving traits and very similar ability.
He's in Belgium don't forget, it's the Opel Speedster over there (and is over 2 litres in N/A form so may have the same tax issues).
However the turbo isn't over 2 litres. Possibly out of budget, though.

Kickstart68

182 posts

166 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Cunning Punt said:
Not as good as a 3.0, apparently: there's less torque
The turbo actually has more peak torque at lower rpm. But is probably less flexible and torque probably drops away more with revs (hence less power from the turbo)

All the best

Keith

Matt_N

8,903 posts

203 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Someone on here had a 2l V6 turbo GTV, there was a thread in reader's rides about it. Can't remember who it was though.

Church of Noise

Original Poster:

1,458 posts

238 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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Thanks for the replies so far!
Still haven't made my mind up (but it's a pleasant experience, to be honest).

In response to some of your remarks:

phil1979 said:
A thing of beauty, isn't it?

300bhp/ton said:
OP have you considered a VX220? Slightly more easy to live with than an S1 Elise, but with all the same handling/driving traits and very similar ability.
Good suggestion, yet if I'd go in that direction, I'd rather go 'all the way' and go for the Elise.

DrTre said:
The op stated beneficial tax reasons in Belgium, which where I assume they live
Correct.

Matt_N said:
Someone on here had a 2l V6 turbo GTV, there was a thread in reader's rides about it. Can't remember who it was though.
Yes, found the thread: http://pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&t... . Chap's known as Mc lovin apparently...

Jgtv

2,125 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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I would say get the GTV, I loved mine and am thinking of getting another.

Not perfect by anymeans and certainly wasnt a cheap car to run but I ran mine for about 70k over a couple of years, it needed a new exhaust(all of it), got the belts changed twice, needed a new battery, and new rear suspension, few sets of tyres, the doors would freeze shut on a very cold day, the boot isnt massive but you soon get used to it and in the end the oil pump gave up without warning and it died (Plenty of oil and major service no more than 6 weeks before)

Wanted a V6 but couldn't afford the running costs, ended up with pretty similar MPG from the 2.0.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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I meant to vote Elise but clicked wrong button. Damn it smile

redstu

2,287 posts

240 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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RicksAlfas said:
Can people please read the thread and not just the first post and then wade in with both feet?

There was a 2.0 V6 turbo sold in Europe.
rolleyeshehe
+ many!

Baryonyx

18,001 posts

160 months

Thursday 13th October 2011
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I'd go for the Alfa Romeo GTV turbo. I was after a Twin Spark GTV earlier this year but nothing came of it. The reports were that the cars are generally reliable but if they've been poorly looked after they can be nightmares, something about the rear end of the car getting warped if some components at the back wern't looked after...?

Anyway, that thought is lost to the sands of time but they look fantastic and sound like they should be a decent drive too. With a turbo I'd imagine they'd provide a lot of fun, while being stylish and rare.