RE: Spotted: Porsche 959... delivery miles only
Discussion
It's such a shame to see a fine example of a decadent, powerful 1980's hypercar just stored and never used. I fully understand the whole "in original box, never opened" mentality, but for people who really love cars, surely it is just sacriligious never driving them?
Personally, I really hope that the clause in the sale for no use is taken down and someone can really use it for what it is
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Personally, I really hope that the clause in the sale for no use is taken down and someone can really use it for what it is
.The differences between models as stolen from a previous 959 thread:
flemke said:
There were two "Sport" versions.
One version was produced in 6 examples (as per customer demand). It had no A/C, no sound system, no adjusting ride-height, no central locking, no rear upholstery, 4-pt harnesses, cloth upholstery, roughly 100 kg lighter.
The second was produced in 29 examples (as per customer demand), intended to get through a loophole in US rules. In the event, they did not get through that loophole; 6 of the 29 were returned from US Customs to Germany, 22 of the 29 had never left the Eastern hemisphere. One of the 29 was allowed to remain in the US but was restricted to sitting in a museum in LA.
The 29 of this second version were the same as the first, except that they had a factory roll cage (leather trimmed!) and normal electric windows, because manual window winders would not rotate under the A-pillar element of the roll cage.
In 1999 the US passed the "Show or Display" law, under which many different cars were potentially eligible for US importation and public road use, subject to a 2500 mi/yr driving limit. The 959, XJ220 and McL. F1 were amongst the cars that have qualified under this.
The Comfort version, whilst a technological marvel of its day (sequential turbos, driver-adjustable front/rear power split, automatically-adjusting ride height on the fly, carbon/Kevlar bodywork, hollow-spoke mag wheels with air-pressure sensors, run-flat tyres), was an Autobahn-orientated GT, not a sports car. The Sport is no performance match for a 997TT, but it is a lovely car to drive.
One version was produced in 6 examples (as per customer demand). It had no A/C, no sound system, no adjusting ride-height, no central locking, no rear upholstery, 4-pt harnesses, cloth upholstery, roughly 100 kg lighter.
The second was produced in 29 examples (as per customer demand), intended to get through a loophole in US rules. In the event, they did not get through that loophole; 6 of the 29 were returned from US Customs to Germany, 22 of the 29 had never left the Eastern hemisphere. One of the 29 was allowed to remain in the US but was restricted to sitting in a museum in LA.
The 29 of this second version were the same as the first, except that they had a factory roll cage (leather trimmed!) and normal electric windows, because manual window winders would not rotate under the A-pillar element of the roll cage.
In 1999 the US passed the "Show or Display" law, under which many different cars were potentially eligible for US importation and public road use, subject to a 2500 mi/yr driving limit. The 959, XJ220 and McL. F1 were amongst the cars that have qualified under this.
The Comfort version, whilst a technological marvel of its day (sequential turbos, driver-adjustable front/rear power split, automatically-adjusting ride height on the fly, carbon/Kevlar bodywork, hollow-spoke mag wheels with air-pressure sensors, run-flat tyres), was an Autobahn-orientated GT, not a sports car. The Sport is no performance match for a 997TT, but it is a lovely car to drive.
P50 said:
Why has noone mentioned why the 959 exists?
Remember the jacked up Paris Dakar Rothmans beasts that were obscene.
I read three cars ran. Two racing and a third car for spares driven my a mechanic. All came in 1 2 3.
Ferrari? would $hit itself at the first sand dune!!
Also: "By 1985 the 959 rally variant was ready, but it experienced a disappointing start: all three cars failed to finish"Remember the jacked up Paris Dakar Rothmans beasts that were obscene.
I read three cars ran. Two racing and a third car for spares driven my a mechanic. All came in 1 2 3.
Ferrari? would $hit itself at the first sand dune!!
... so it wasn't the all dominating masterpiece that one soundbite might suggest.
The 959 is still my favourite Porsche though (although I'm not much of a Porsche fanatic).
By coincidence I was at Canepa Design near Monterey, California 2 days ago on the way home from the Rennfest Reunion IV and saw the factory miles only 959. They were asking $1million. Just how many red 959s are there out there with no miles and are they all real? Of course if there too many then they are devalued...
thewheelman said:
I don't see the logic in that myself, it'd be similar to owning a nice house, but choosing to sleep in a bedsit, or having a beautiful wife & going out to plough Susan Boyle......no thanks! A car is made to be driven 
Its not really the same though is it?Would you spend hundreds of pounds on an uncirculated 1870's sovereign and put it in your pocket with your loose change?
k-ink said:
treetops said:
£750k 
oh dear not ever, not ever.
A very bland bit of metal to park in the darkness of a garage.
Was it bought by Carlos Slim by any chance? Loose change for him.
It's all relative. For comparison... oh dear not ever, not ever.A very bland bit of metal to park in the darkness of a garage.
Was it bought by Carlos Slim by any chance? Loose change for him.
Artist Christian Jankowski submitted a yacht (Dislopen range 68m CRN) as a work of art at the Frieze Art Fair, London. The usual list price of €65,000,000 becomes €75,000,000 as a work of art, which would then be named “Jankowski.” That is a mark up of 10 million Euro for an off the shelf current boat, with nothing different other than it's name.
I'm by no means an art connoisseur, but I can understand why some paintings are worth millions to those who can appreciate the subtle distinctions of the finest.
Always been ambivalent about the 959, it's probably the only supercar that I have absolutely no opinion about.
Suppose due to never really hearing about them. Compared to the Ferraris of the time, and the incomparable Mclaren, the Porsche lost massively in the awareness stakes.
How weird is it that as a schoolkid collecting car mags and being a petrolhead, without actually having any driving experience,I prefered the 959 from the F40, now as a 38 year old petrolhead who can drive and likes rawness and pure driving fun I much prefer the F40 as it is now and for some time been my all time favourite car EVER!!! I still dont think anything has bettered this car for driving fun and sense of occasion!
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