Barum Tyres? Anyone tried them?

[H_Kan]

simoid said:

H_Kan said:

Fox- said:

LukeSi said:

Made by Continental, same factory as their branded stuff.

Argghh why do people say this as if it means anything?

Because its giving some assurance of quality control and provenance. ie. They are a tyre maker who are linked to Continental as opposed to some outfit with no links to established players in the tyre industry.

Doesn't mean the tyres are any good though. I think that's what was being driven at...

I appreciate it doesn't give a guarantee as to how good the tyres are, merely that the source is reputable and not some fly by night outfit.

[Farm boy]

Pretty sure they used to be used on CZ's / Jawa in 70's 80's.

Lasted longer than my bikes tbf.

[AnotherClarkey]

Had several sets over the years, no problems to report. Not as long lasting as Michelins but good grip wet or dry and nice progressive breakaway.

[Andyjc86]

Hi, long time lurker, first time poster.

We were selling the bravavius 2 range as our standard tyre up until a month ago (change of supplier). We didn't have any complients about them.I fitted a set to the wife's car to test them, I would say they are are good budget / ok mid range tyre. They grip well in the wet and dry, have low road noise and wear well.

Use them for what they are though, a budget tyre! Don't expect premium performance for a budget price lol

[anonymous-user]

reputation in bicycle tyres was always very good, but were always a bit pricey

not sure how that translates to 'budget' car tyres with the same brand, but they should, at least, know the theory!

[scotty_d]

They were on the rear of the Cerbera when i first got it. One word to describe these tyres starts in S ends in E Don't rate them at all.

[mercfunder]

VR6 Turbo said:

LukeSi said:

Made by Continental, same factory as their branded stuff.

all very well but its the compound where they save the money. it also make or breaks a tyre.


VR

Go on then explain how the compounds differ, this ain't F1 tyres we're talking about.

[simoid]

mercfunder said:

Go on then explain how the compounds differ, this ain't F1 tyres we're talking about.

No, you're correct, all tyres are made of exactly the same compounds no matter what the price or manufactuter,and behave in exactly the same way, apart from F1 tyres. Because they are different.

[Frances The Mute]

Andyjc86 said:

Hi, long time lurker, first time poster.

We were selling the bravavius 2 range as our standard tyre up until a month ago (change of supplier). We didn't have any complients about them.I fitted a set to the wife's car to test them, I would say they are are good budget / ok mid range tyre. They grip well in the wet and dry, have low road noise and wear well.

Use them for what they are though, a budget tyre! Don't expect premium performance for a budget price lol

Agreed. I've used them on several road going cars and they're great value for money. Unless you're giving it large all the time (and if you are, the chances are that you're using premium tyres anyway), they'll easily cope with ~200bhp and 'fast' road driving.

[mercfunder]

simoid said:

mercfunder said:

Go on then explain how the compounds differ, this ain't F1 tyres we're talking about.

No, you're correct, all tyres are made of exactly the same compounds no matter what the price or manufactuter,and behave in exactly the same way, apart from F1 tyres. Because they are different.

All tyres are made of pretty much the same compound, there are not that many variables in the formulation, things like 2 stage mixing and pre-dispersing your fillers may give a more even compound,plus the addition of various fillers (which are put in minuscule amounts) will alter the wear properties, but the raw materials are basically the same,

A great deal of the price paid for a premium tyre goes towards the marketing budget.

15 years in the rubber industry, what do you base your knowledge on?

Edited by mercfunder on Wednesday 2nd November 14:42

[bobby_vimto]

Frances The Mute said:

Agreed. I've used them on several road going cars and they're great value for money. Unless you're giving it large all the time (and if you are, the chances are that you're using premium tyres anyway), they'll easily cope with ~200bhp and 'fast' road driving.

Agreed - bought 4x Barum Bravuris 2s a few months back. Coping admirably with the rain, very quiet and road holding has been excellent so far wet or dry - no traction control, ABD, ESP, OMG, ROFL, FFS or other magical pixie device dashboard lights. Saying that, the instrument fuses could be fkd but on the assumption everything is working then they've been impressive so far!

One thing though, I'd keep the pressures high - as in running at the manufacturer heavy load / motorway pressures. A bit more 'rumble' when on standard pressures. Other than that, no worse than the full beanz Conti's but a good bit cheaper.

[VR6 Turbo]

mercfunder said:

All tyres are made of pretty much the same compound, there are not that many variables in the formulation, things like 2 stage mixing and pre-dispersing your fillers may give a more even compound,plus the addition of various fillers (which are put in minuscule amounts) will alter the wear properties, but the raw materials are basically the same,

A great deal of the price paid for a premium tyre goes towards the marketing budget.

15 years in the rubber industry, what do you base your knowledge on?

Edited by mercfunder on Wednesday 2nd November 14:42

Admittedly I don't have your knowledge of rubber.

however toyo offer the 888's in different compounds for example. Are you suggesting this is just marketing stuff and the compounds don't differ so much? genuinely interested, everyday is a school day.

I understand that there are many factors that effect tyres. but does barums tyre have the same compound as a continental or toyo 888 tyre?

VR

[simoid]

mercfunder said:

simoid said:

mercfunder said:

Go on then explain how the compounds differ, this ain't F1 tyres we're talking about.

No, you're correct, all tyres are made of exactly the same compounds no matter what the price or manufactuter,and behave in exactly the same way, apart from F1 tyres. Because they are different.

All tyres are made of pretty much the same compound, there are not that many variables in the formulation, things like 2 stage mixing and pre-dispersing your fillers may give a more even compound,plus the addition of various fillers (which are put in minuscule amounts) will alter the wear properties, but the raw materials are basically the same,

A great deal of the price paid for a premium tyre goes towards the marketing budget.

15 years in the rubber industry, what do you base your knowledge on?

Edited by mercfunder on Wednesday 2nd November 14:42

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[SD1992]

Had these on my last Mondeo and it was brilliant! I pushed it hard on occasion and it never let go.

Handled better than my ST24 it did

[vrsmxtb]

I have Bravuris 2's on the front of my fabia, they were fitted during insurance repair work. I was sceptical at first as I was running the highly rated Rainsport 2's but I can vouch for them, they are excellent in the dry and fine in the wet and they don't light up the traction control any more than the Rainsports did when nailing it. Wear seems ok too and noise levels are fine. Not ditchfinders at all in my opinion, although the Bravuris 2 is their flagship line. I think mine are made in the Czech republic, so basically just a cheap Conti branch.

[lescombes]

Nothing wrong with Barum's....cant add to what has been said by many who have experience them, basically as usual on here...the Brand snobs stick their necks out and rubbish manufacturers without the product knowledge or use of the said item.....typical British attitude ....

[Fox-]

Well I was going to order some Eagle F1 Assymetric 2's but it seems I can get the same performance from a Barum so I'll get those instead.

[Mr2Mike]

Farm boy said:

Pretty sure they used to be used on CZ's / Jawa in 70's 80's.

Lasted longer than my bikes tbf.

Yep, I well remember them, along with Cheng Shin (now Maxxis). They were definetly made from some kind of ever-lasting concrete based rubber No experience with them on cars, but they appear to be one of the better budget tyres.

[scotty_d]

lescombes said:

Nothing wrong with Barum's....cant add to what has been said by many who have experience them, basically as usual on here...the Brand snobs stick their necks out and rubbish manufacturers without the product knowledge or use of the said item.....typical British attitude ....

Not in my case ran them for around 1500 miles in the Cerbera and found them awful now on Eagle F1 Asymmetric and it really is night and day.

The barums where not progressive on the limit like the good years very bad in the wet aqua planning was common and these tyres had 5-6mm of tread when i binned them.

Really not a fan of them in a light weight rear wheel drive sports car with over 300bhp/ton. Might be ok on a Hot hatch but not a car with no driver aids nothing to do with being a "brand snob" i just like to get what i pay for and it is the only part of the car ever in contact with the road so i dont mind spending top £££ to get good performance tyre.

[edsmithie]

They are budget Continentials. Don't bother with budget tyres unless you're getting rid of the car soon, most important item for performace and safety.