0-100-0 AC cobra 427ci

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Sebring440

2,022 posts

97 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
https://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-944-turbo-s

14 odd seconds to 100mph and that’s the Furbo S 250bhp Model. You need a hugely faster car - this with stopping time is likely double the time of the Cobra or the F1.
In your dreams!

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

225 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Sebring440 said:
Welshbeef said:
https://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-944-turbo-s

14 odd seconds to 100mph and that’s the Furbo S 250bhp Model. You need a hugely faster car - this with stopping time is likely double the time of the Cobra or the F1.
In your dreams!
8 years on, beefs still a bore..

Caddyshack

10,837 posts

207 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Sebring440 said:
Welshbeef said:
https://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-944-turbo-s

14 odd seconds to 100mph and that’s the Furbo S 250bhp Model. You need a hugely faster car - this with stopping time is likely double the time of the Cobra or the F1.
In your dreams!
14 seconds to 100in a 250bhp 944 is pretty easy to replicate I would imagine 12 is do able and then time to brake.

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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Caddyshack said:
Sebring440 said:
Welshbeef said:
https://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-944-turbo-s

14 odd seconds to 100mph and that’s the Furbo S 250bhp Model. You need a hugely faster car - this with stopping time is likely double the time of the Cobra or the F1.
In your dreams!
14 seconds to 100in a 250bhp 944 is pretty easy to replicate I would imagine 12 is do able and then time to brake.
12 is doable ? how would you find another 2 seconds over contemporary road test figures ?


donkmeister

8,205 posts

101 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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200Plus Club said:
7 yrs on and I was waiting for the "Ultima" record to be brought up again but alas not as yet :-)
It's usually rolled out swiftly followed by the factory and their claims about "fastest car round top gear track on a Wednesday afternoon in May" or whatever. :-)
Harsh! smash

I understood that the reason Ultima didn't hold the "official" Top Gear record was simply that the Top Gear producers hadn't invited them on, and the only thing in question is "why didn't the Top Gear producers invite the Ultima on the show?". Of course that question raises answers ranging from normal-to-mental, but the fact is the car was proven to be quickest road-legal car round the track.

Random question: your user ID piqued my interest so I had a look at your garage... I don't see any cars capable of 200mph in factory trim - do you have a special or have you previously owned a car that doesn't show on your list?

200Plus Club

10,773 posts

279 months

Sunday 11th November 2018
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donkmeister said:
Harsh! smash

I understood that the reason Ultima didn't hold the "official" Top Gear record was simply that the Top Gear producers hadn't invited them on, and the only thing in question is "why didn't the Top Gear producers invite the Ultima on the show?". Of course that question raises answers ranging from normal-to-mental, but the fact is the car was proven to be quickest road-legal car round the track.

Random question: your user ID piqued my interest so I had a look at your garage... I don't see any cars capable of 200mph in factory trim - do you have a special or have you previously owned a car that doesn't show on your list?
Oh it's from my original sign on in here donkeys years ago. We used to run the 200 plus club (bhp ) back when having something with 200bhp or more was a bit of a "thing" and generally quite a strong performance car. I think if we had the same nowadays you'd be looking at a 600 plus club lol.
I've done 203mph myself in a 911 turbo and 213mph as a passenger but it was never about top speed tbh.

So having been on here (17yrs?) so long I've also seen the Ultima 0-100-0 and Top gear test track "sales pitch" used in advertising and guff about a million times also. Yes it was impressive back in the day but never repeated under "scrutiny" on track and never recently in comparison with the new breed of supercar/ hyper car. It's not a particular dig at Ultima per se, I actually quite liked them back in the day and was going to build one, but times have moved on, as this thread also shows and they look a bit stale nowadays imho compared to many modern tackle of high performance
:-)

Edited by 200Plus Club on Sunday 11th November 23:39

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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haggishunter said:
S2000?
No chance it’s still accelerating to get to 100mph and the Cobra is already back to stationary. An S2000 isn’t remotely fast enough you need to think about cars which can do 0-100mph in under HALF the time an S2000 can.


https://fastestlaps.com/models/honda-s2000

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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Caddyshack said:
I sometimes wish I could get the 205 to drive like it did on the old style as it was much more throttle adjustable. It is still good compared to modern stuff but they used to be better.
Try some different or budget tyres out.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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J4CKO said:
Welshbeef said:
Returning to this thread 8 years on how many road cars are now quicker than the Cobra 427ci 0-100-0?

I’m wagering that this legendary and stunning car is still high in those performance stats and youd need a rather special car to keep it honest.
Or something, 4wd, German and powerful with a dual clutch gearbox ?

TTRS with a remap wouldnt be far off, 911 Turbo, Nissan GTR, Tesla P100D, Various Mclarens, Ferraris etc

Also depends on whether the time is actuate for the Cobra, reckon loads of modern stuff could match or beat it.
Not sure about the TTRS, but happy to be proven wrong.

I suspect the biggest difference would be. The Cobra would probably do this all day long. While many of the cars you mention probably only have a handful of full bore attempts in them without maintenance.

lyonspride

2,978 posts

156 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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KItcar maker Dax, did 10s with a cosworth powered 4x4 "sevenesue" car known as the Dax Rush in the mid 90's.

Mentioned here https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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I was wondering about a Tesla and found this article, which also includes a good list of 0-100-0 times:

https://www.motortrend.com/news/the-2017-tesla-mod...

clarkey

1,365 posts

285 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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RobM77 said:
Didn't a Caterham R500 hold the record for a while?
Yes - 11.44 seconds. I bought that car off Caterham in about 2006. Anything under 15 seconds in remarkable in 1960's technology.



haggishunter

1,315 posts

244 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
haggishunter said:
S2000?
No chance it’s still accelerating to get to 100mph and the Cobra is already back to stationary. An S2000 isn’t remotely fast enough you need to think about cars which can do 0-100mph in under HALF the time an S2000 can.


https://fastestlaps.com/models/honda-s2000
What if it was an imaginary s2000?

Welshbeef

Original Poster:

49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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haggishunter said:
Welshbeef said:
haggishunter said:
S2000?
No chance it’s still accelerating to get to 100mph and the Cobra is already back to stationary. An S2000 isn’t remotely fast enough you need to think about cars which can do 0-100mph in under HALF the time an S2000 can.


https://fastestlaps.com/models/honda-s2000
What if it was an imaginary s2000?
How would that line up on the test grid next to the Cobra? Did you simply sit on the floor making brim brim noises? Stop fking about derailing the thread thanks.

J4CKO

41,628 posts

201 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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300bhp/ton said:
J4CKO said:
Welshbeef said:
Returning to this thread 8 years on how many road cars are now quicker than the Cobra 427ci 0-100-0?

I’m wagering that this legendary and stunning car is still high in those performance stats and youd need a rather special car to keep it honest.
Or something, 4wd, German and powerful with a dual clutch gearbox ?

TTRS with a remap wouldnt be far off, 911 Turbo, Nissan GTR, Tesla P100D, Various Mclarens, Ferraris etc

Also depends on whether the time is actuate for the Cobra, reckon loads of modern stuff could match or beat it.
Not sure about the TTRS, but happy to be proven wrong.

I suspect the biggest difference would be. The Cobra would probably do this all day long. While many of the cars you mention probably only have a handful of full bore attempts in them without maintenance.
A TTRS with Revo Stage one can do a 7 and a bit sec 0-100 mph run, should stop in 4 something, 12 ish seconds sounds possible.

Not sure why you think those cars would need maintenance and that a Cobra would do it all day, people drag race GTR's with a 1000 bhp and not a huge amount done to the rest of the drivetrain, its just speculation that the new ones are weak and the Cobra is super tough, broken half shafts, twisted props, broken suspension mounts, roasted clutch, exploding diffs etc are possible in any car being driven like that.



Caddyshack

10,837 posts

207 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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J4CKO said:
Caddyshack said:
Sebring440 said:
Welshbeef said:
https://fastestlaps.com/models/porsche-944-turbo-s

14 odd seconds to 100mph and that’s the Furbo S 250bhp Model. You need a hugely faster car - this with stopping time is likely double the time of the Cobra or the F1.
In your dreams!
14 seconds to 100in a 250bhp 944 is pretty easy to replicate I would imagine 12 is do able and then time to brake.
12 is doable ? how would you find another 2 seconds over contemporary road test figures ?
Lay the back seats down.

haggishunter

1,315 posts

244 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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Welshbeef said:
haggishunter said:
Welshbeef said:
haggishunter said:
S2000?
No chance it’s still accelerating to get to 100mph and the Cobra is already back to stationary. An S2000 isn’t remotely fast enough you need to think about cars which can do 0-100mph in under HALF the time an S2000 can.


https://fastestlaps.com/models/honda-s2000
What if it was an imaginary s2000?
How would that line up on the test grid next to the Cobra? Did you simply sit on the floor making brim brim noises? Stop fking about derailing the thread thanks.
My wife gave me the keys so it must be real, that the way it works isn’t it? [edit].


Edited by dinosaur.mod on Monday 12th November 20:08

g7jhp

6,969 posts

239 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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Be interested to see a 620R have a go!

turbotoaster

647 posts

173 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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its all about weight and traction, my car is 600bhp/650kg/mid engined but i cant put all the power down in first and only in second if i was running drag slicks.

Is the rule what factory car would beat it, or what road legal car would beat it as thats a totally different story

Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

199 months

Monday 12th November 2018
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turbotoaster said:
its all about weight and traction, my car is 600bhp/650kg/mid engined but i cant put all the power down in first and only in second if i was running drag slicks.

Is the rule what factory car would beat it, or what road legal car would beat it as thats a totally different story
Road legal.