RE: Nissan GT-R 2012: More For Less (Fuel)

[TSS]

StottyZr said:

Yes it is a large car. Shockingly large to be honest, as you've pointed out its wider than a 5 series...

When hooning with the GTR in tow it struggles on country roads as the following driver has on many occations pointed out "its too bloody wide for these roads" especially when overtaking.

StottyZr is correct.

[jbi]

StottyZr said:

jbi said:

nickfrog said:

Also, this only applies to roads where the GTR can actually fit !! I know many brilliant back roads where it would be seriously held back by its seriously large size compared to other "normal size" cars.

FFS the GTR is NOT a large car

Nissan GTR
Length - 4,655 mm (183.3 in)
Width - 1,895 mm (74.6 in)

BMW 3 series
Length - 4,624 mm (182.0 in)
Width - 1,811 mm (71.3 in)

Ford Mustang
Length - 4,780 mm (188.1 in)
Width - 1,880 mm (73.9 in)

Ford Mondeo
Length - 4,844 mm (190.7 in)
Width - 1,886 mm (74.3 in)

BMW 5 Series
Length - 4,907 mm (193.2 in)
Width - 1,860 mm (73.2 in)

Ford Taurus
Length - 5,154 mm (202.9 in)
Width - 1,953 mm (76.9 in)

Edited by jbi on Wednesday 9th November 19:01

Yes it is a large car. Shockingly large to be honest, as you've pointed out its wider than a 5 series...

When hooning with the GTR in tow it struggles on country roads as the following driver has on many occations pointed out "its too bloody wide for these roads" especially when overtaking.

It's nearly exactly the same width as a mondeo... your everyday family car... not a bloody bus

It's also a 10 inches shorter than a 5 series

[The1Driver]

TobesH said:

The 09 to 11 evolutions are small tweaks and refinements. Litchfield will Stage-1 your '09/10 model to 560bhp for £1,000 and they will have available next year's 2012 model economy map too.

Not bad that.

Not bad at all. Warranty still in valid?

[The1Driver]

Trommel said:

The1Driver said:

Their resale value must be taking a serious hammering

The opposite, surely.

How So...?

[Trommel]

Limited supply, increased price new.

With the exception of the occasional dodgy early import, they are holding their value well.

[TobesH]

The1Driver said:

TobesH said:

The 09 to 11 evolutions are small tweaks and refinements. Litchfield will Stage-1 your '09/10 model to 560bhp for £1,000 and they will have available next year's 2012 model economy map too.

Not bad that.

Not bad at all. Warranty still in valid?

Take a look at Litchfield's website for info on warranties, servicing and other such issues. 09 cars will be out of Nissan warranty soon anyway so you can negotiate independent warranties. From what I've read on the forums the GTR is very reliable and sensible upgrades are not an issue. Horror stories re gearboxes seem exaggerated from what I've read and those who have had problems have resulted in Nissan fixing out of goodwill, even on modified cars.

[LongLiveTazio]

jbi said:

It's nearly exactly the same width as a mondeo... your everyday family car... not a bloody bus

It's also a 10 inches shorter than a 5 series

Mondeos are large though. You occasionally suck in breath in places even the not-incredibly-narrow Focus would have no issues. Look at a new one next to a Mk 1 and it's hilarious.

[TobesH]

Trommel said:

Limited supply, increased price new.

With the exception of the occasional dodgy early import, they are holding their value well.

Don't forget they were £65k in 09. At the moment good low mileage example is £40-£45. The increase prices of the new model should only help maintain values of the earlier cars.

[Trommel]

TobesH said:

Don't forget they were £65k in 09

Pre-VAT increase, the one I ordered was £53k ...

[The1Driver]

Trommel said:

Limited supply, increased price new.

With the exception of the occasional dodgy early import, they are holding their value well.

I'm talking about the second hand resale value of the first and perhaps even the second gens

[Trommel]

So am I. They're holding their value very well - limited supply, increased price new and only incremental model year changes.

[The1Driver]

Interesting.

I thought most owners of the gen 1 car would be bending over backwards to place deposits or px their old ones for the new ones.... Not only that but one would assume those looking to get a GTR hott off the shelf would now wait another month or two for the order books to open for the 12/13 model

Either way even in gen1 form the car is still outstanding. Hope I get to drive one in the near furture lol

Edited by The1Driver on Thursday 10th November 13:10

[DanDC5]

The1Driver said:

Interesting.

I thought owners most owner of the gen 1 car would be bending over backwards to place deposits or px their old ones for the new ones.... Not only that but one would assume those looking to get a GTR hott off the shelf would now wait another month or two for the order books to open for the 12/13 model

Might be some good deals on the MY11 models with the updated GTR being out soon? Could tempt a few people to buy now.

[TobesH]

Trommel said:

TobesH said:

Don't forget they were £65k in 09

Pre-VAT increase, the one I ordered was £53k ...

Wow!

[The1Driver]

M3 Paper

[jbi]

LongLiveTazio said:

jbi said:

It's nearly exactly the same width as a mondeo... your everyday family car... not a bloody bus

It's also a 10 inches shorter than a 5 series

Mondeos are large though. You occasionally suck in breath in places even the not-incredibly-narrow Focus would have no issues. Look at a new one next to a Mk 1 and it's hilarious.

It's a sports car though... they tend to be shorter and wider. The porsche 997 is 73 inches wide for example

[LongLiveTazio]

Yeah and it's also a hell of a lot shorter. I don't hate on the GTR but you can't deny it's not selte and comparing it to a family saloon isn't really a great comparison.

[KB_S1]

jbi said:

It's a sports car though... they tend to be shorter and wider. The porsche 997 is 73 inches wide for example

Don't think of the GTR as a 'sports car' myself.
Compared to a 911 it had double the luggage capacity and a fair bit more space in the back seats.

[Stew2000]

KB_S1 said:

jbi said:

It's a sports car though... they tend to be shorter and wider. The porsche 997 is 73 inches wide for example

Don't think of the GTR as a 'sports car' myself.
Compared to a 911 it had double the luggage capacity and a fair bit more space in the back seats.

The clue is in the name. 'GT'. 'Carrera'. totally different classes.

[Caviar]

Starting to really like the GT-R, MY2012 should be bang on the buck. Has everythng but looks and could outrun anything with built quality and some level of comfort to spare being that it has 4wd and two clutch. Easy to use, all weather and ultra rapid come wanting. 2+2 and a decent boot, this car is technically unbeatable if we could spare change for its fuel consumption and tyre cost..it completely exposes all those posers and thats the best part.