RE: SSC Tuatara: interior and other details
Discussion
Carfolio said:
Reading not a strong point, I take it?
I re-read your comment, if you believe that this is a copy or not far off then my comment was on the money. It is like saying that because a car is a coupe that its a copy of those that had been built before it. Infact perhaps we should be trying to define the term copy rather than debating this.
Carfolio said:
Calm down, dear. 
It's very, very clearly the Maserati Birdcage 75 design reworked, by the same designer, for SSC. It's not really a stretch to call it a copy now, is it?
I am really not usually one for jumping on the X looks like Y bandwagon either, more often than not I am defending designs from exactly that criticism.
Lastly, I can't quite understand what your point is about the Karma being built in the US and the DB9 in the UK but by the same designer. Yes, both statements are true, but what is it you're driving at in bringing that up? Personally, I don't see much similarity between the Karma & the DB9.
Karma is a totally different car to the DB9. But both are designed by the same designer. Yes, there are more similarities between Bird cage and Tuatara. But, for a totally different find of cars there are also enough design clues to make people believe Karma and DB9 are designed by the same person. It's very, very clearly the Maserati Birdcage 75 design reworked, by the same designer, for SSC. It's not really a stretch to call it a copy now, is it?
I am really not usually one for jumping on the X looks like Y bandwagon either, more often than not I am defending designs from exactly that criticism.
Lastly, I can't quite understand what your point is about the Karma being built in the US and the DB9 in the UK but by the same designer. Yes, both statements are true, but what is it you're driving at in bringing that up? Personally, I don't see much similarity between the Karma & the DB9.
The point I'm trying to make is that it is perfectly normal for two different cars from different companies to have the similar design elements and characters even if they were designed by different group of people (never mind the same person). As long as there are not exactly the same, nobody need to have any kind of agreement to make the later design legal.
Again, if you insist this exterior design is a copy of its designer earlier design---Bird Cage, fine that's your opinion. But, I would not use the word 'copy'. Because, at the end of the day Bird Cage is also designed by him after all. You don't similar works done by the same person as copying, do you? Maybe repeating, but certainly not copying, IMO. And most importantly this kind of design style made who he is, made him famous. Blame Apple for the same white paint on both cars, though.
Just to add a little to the name. Not sure I would want to be driving around in the messanger of death and disaster, but some might.
The word “tuatara” is derived from a Maori word meaning “spiny back.” In Maori legend, they are messengers of Whiro, the god of death and disaster, and they were featured on one side of a New Zealand five-cent coin that was phased out in 2006.
The word “tuatara” is derived from a Maori word meaning “spiny back.” In Maori legend, they are messengers of Whiro, the god of death and disaster, and they were featured on one side of a New Zealand five-cent coin that was phased out in 2006.
loveice said:
The Crack Fox said:
So, unless you're a qualified Automotive designer, you're not allowed an opinion on the styling then ? Just because someone has put a lot of time in we're not allow to say it looks like every other 'coming soon' supercar we'll never see on UK roads ? Riiiight. 
Of course you can. It's just I don't like people accuse something they don't really know about. Don't you think if that's how people react on Pistonheads, then it will be just an automotive version of those celebrity gossip websites/forums?
You mean PH isn't exactly what you describe - a chat forum with a common theme - as opposed to a professional body of some sort?
blasos said:
borderline racist dismissal of American cars.
Racist? Really? How does that work when the articles themselves considering inanimate objects. Stereotypical and ill-informed preconceptions maybe, but racism it's not. amped2go said:
Just to add a little to the name. Not sure I would want to be driving around in the messanger of death and disaster, but some might.
The word “tuatara” is derived from a Maori word meaning “spiny back.” In Maori legend, they are messengers of Whiro, the god of death and disaster, and they were featured on one side of a New Zealand five-cent coin that was phased out in 2006.
They're exclusive to New Zealand and the last species of an otherwise extinct order of reptiles and when there, I was sure I read they were NZ's only native reptile, but it seems there are also several native geckos and skinks. The word “tuatara” is derived from a Maori word meaning “spiny back.” In Maori legend, they are messengers of Whiro, the god of death and disaster, and they were featured on one side of a New Zealand five-cent coin that was phased out in 2006.
The Crack Fox said:
Blatant rip off of the George Foreman Grill that is optional on the Chelfing lunge http://www.chelfing.com/page2.htm
Woah woah waoh. Hold up. Yes yes SSC etc. etc. What the hell is this Chelfing thing???From the linked page:
"Another Industry first ! Not only were Chelfing the first company to give you 9 cupholders and koalaskin seats, we now offer integrated George Foreman Grill in the glovebox*. Enjoy a hot, freshly prepared snack from the convenience of your drivers seat, no need to stop at services to get your hotdog ! Grill only available on GGLS model, and replaces woman's side airbag. Contact your local Chelfing dealer for more information, or email Chelfing HQ direct.
- WARNING : Driving SUV while using cellphone and operating grill may cause unwanted electrical surge and/or burn your sausage."
EDIT: They also have another revolutionary product - Spray-on Carbon Fibre! It makes things stronger and lighter! http://www.chelfing.com/page13.htm
Edited by Ryvita on Friday 11th November 14:17
Ryvita said:
I can't decide what's best. 9 cup holders, koala skin seats, the possibility of a burnt sausage whilst driving, or the flabbergasting fact that you can install a grill by removing the WOMAN'S SIDE airbag...
Chelfing website said:
Mis-informations correct at time of going to press...
15” Steel Wheels type ‘Rotate’
16” Alloy Wheels type ‘Revolve’
17” Alloy Wheels type ‘Round’
Smog lights
15” Steel Wheels type ‘Rotate’
16” Alloy Wheels type ‘Revolve’
17” Alloy Wheels type ‘Round’
Smog lights
MagicalTrevor said:
Excellent, it has a built in microwave oven in the centre console
Exactly what I thought... and the interior does not look modern or exciting at all!The exterior design looks great and original. It is does not bear any Lambo, Ferrari or McLaren clues which is very good. But the interior looks heavily disappointing to me. A re-start would be good here, imo.
Carfolio said:
TinyCappo said:
without sounding like the s
test petrol head ever....what cars has it taken its design features from?
It's a close copy of the Maserati Birdcage75 concept of a few years back.test petrol head ever....what cars has it taken its design features from?
Remember, NOTHING is really new! And that is not the point. Design needs to be pleasant to sell cars!
The SSC exterior does. About the interior appeal I am not so sure, to say the least...
F1GTRUeno said:
The same guy designed the Birdcage and the P4/5, and the Tuatara has about a million cues from both of them, hardly original.
personally I prefer both the Birdcage and the P4/5. I like the Tuatara but it seams a bit fussy in the detail i.e. that got a bit carried away with the curricular vents. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff