RE: TVR: Back in business (there's even a website)

RE: TVR: Back in business (there's even a website)

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Dr JonboyG

2,561 posts

240 months

Saturday 12th November 2011
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Steve12NG said:
They all look like crappy cheap kit cars to me

Maybe employing a designer with the gift of sight would be a start...
ROL. Like the dog that TVR claimed designed the Chimera?

Don1

15,952 posts

209 months

Saturday 12th November 2011
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dvs_dave said:
That doesn't make sense or have I missed something?
Apologies. Too much booze. My LS3-esque Tamora retains the standard running gear - it's all supposed to be with the engineering specifications. I'll report back when I have the full details!

radlet6

736 posts

175 months

Saturday 12th November 2011
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JABB said:
Doesn't anyone else think the whole site looks suspicious? The email addresses are suss, the links and data out of date. This doen't strike me as a proTVR site, rather a amateur putting a site together for fun.
Well you will need to check the forecast for a cold day in hell before I enter my card details.

Transmitter Man

4,253 posts

225 months

Saturday 12th November 2011
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JonRB said:
Typical snobbish remark from the owner of a dancing donkey. rolleyes


Phil hehe

GTRene

16,620 posts

225 months

Saturday 12th November 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
Driver479 said:
I was one of TVR's transporter drivers (worked there for 22 years in total) and drove one of the purple transporters to the Austrian address at Braungasse on two occasions. It is Smolenskis private house, not any kind of workshop facility. It is in a residential area, surrounded by large houses. I have photos but would not publish them on here as it is his private residence. Whatever he is doing, I seriously doubt it is happening there.
The Golding company of the brand is at this address.

This whole new enterprise is TVR Power in Coventry operating under license from NS.

The cars will be made in England but I suspect they will test the water first with refurbing old cars and fitting LS engines as the money required to start manufacturing all the little parts to build completely new cars doesn't exist at present.

Obviously, they are expecting to sell more refurbed cars in Europe than in the UK hence the skin over the website and its focus.

They'll source UK used cars, rebuild them at Power in Coventry and ship them over to the sales front in Europe. Probably the Belgian operation.

With regards to cost, I have a feeling that you'll be looking at E100k for some of these.

In the UK I think people who want a refurbed TVR will stick the the proven and existing companies who have been doing this for a fair few years and those wanting an LS, likewise.

I'm sure Dom will be around in the next week or so to confirm or deny.
No I don't think those will be that expensive...
scroll down and see on this website thta compagny build a "new" car with LS3 and 480hp biggrin for 35 to 39.000,-gbp

or you can do a rebuild car with that for even "less" say 24K

website said:
Ultimate; As new car built from scratch with all new components using one of our donor cars or your car, built on our Evolution chassis, using Nitron Sport shock absorbers, Powerflex bushes 320mm front discs with AP callipers and Sagaris standard rear brake set up. Powered by a Chevrolet LS3 6.2 litre 480bhp engine and Tremec TKO 600 gearbox with BTR LSD. Fully refurbished and repainted bodyshell, new wiring loom and fusebox, new instruments, new Meta alarm system, newly trimmed interior and hood with a choice of seat options and trim materials, power steering, choice of wheel options including 18" TVR Spiders, Compomotive MO and Antera.

£35k to £39k dependant on donor car and customers choice of spec, colour and trim.
http://www.sportmotive.com/restoration.html

DonkeyApple

55,478 posts

170 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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GTRene said:
You're forgetting all the parties that are going to need to be cut in on the action.

NS' share, builder's share, sales' share. Plus, I'm sure some other parties down stream. Then there is the basic cost of donor, labour and parts. Oh, and taxes.

To make it all worthwhile I would guess on numbers for some of these cars being north of £75k.

JonRB

74,624 posts

273 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
I'm sure Dom will be around in the next week or so to confirm or deny.
And no doubt whistle his new tune about how those of us still using the S6 engine are losers. wink


M3John

5,974 posts

220 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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Don1 said:
dvs_dave said:
That doesn't make sense or have I missed something?
Apologies. Too much booze. My LS3-esque Tamora retains the standard running gear - it's all supposed to be with the engineering specifications. I'll report back when I have the full details!
Liking the sound of that Don. Bet it's going to be an absolute riot to drive !

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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DonkeyApple said:
GTRene said:
http://www.sportmotive.com/restoration.html £35k to £39k dependant on donor car and customers choice of spec, colour and trim.
You're forgetting all the parties that are going to need to be cut in on the action.

NS' share, builder's share, sales' share. Plus, I'm sure some other parties down stream. Then there is the basic cost of donor, labour and parts. Oh, and taxes.

To make it all worthwhile I would guess on numbers for some of these cars being north of £75k.
So Sportmotive will do the work for £50K inc VAT and options. Normally, as with AC Cobra replicas say, rivals can't use the badge but since both camps are only modifying cars then the owner already has the right to use the badge. What extra value is NS offering?

You may get a few british buyers but I can't see many wanting a Corvette engined twenty year old TVR for the price of a new Corvette http://www.chevrolet.co.uk/cars/corvette/corvette-...

DonkeyApple

55,478 posts

170 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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JR said:
So Sportmotive will do the work for £50K inc VAT and options. Normally, as with AC Cobra replicas say, rivals can't use the badge but since both camps are only modifying cars then the owner already has the right to use the badge. What extra value is NS offering?

You may get a few british buyers but I can't see many wanting a Corvette engined twenty year old TVR for the price of a new Corvette http://www.chevrolet.co.uk/cars/corvette/corvette-...
It's the big question.

There are several companies dotted around the UK which already do all of this, have years of experience and will always be cheaper as the pot isn't being split in lots of different directions.

I also can't imagine many English customers would go for an option which sees a chunk of their money gping to NS.

If they are aiming at European customers then I would have thought they would make mention of LHD.

I can see the concept working but when you look at how badly put together the website, their primary shop window, is put together then I suspect it shows the state of mind and commitment of those involved.

wombat172a

1,455 posts

184 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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Well, I like the like new website.

Under Heritage it says my old 350i can do 153mph! That's good pub banter that is wink

Chafford1

211 posts

232 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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I'm assuming this is the same operation described a few months back in EVO. The article stated TVR Power would rebuild the cars as new from £50k. The first car being rebuilt, a Tuscan 2, was, according to the article, for a Mr N. Smolenski.


bobberz

1,832 posts

200 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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I'm just wondering if the previous reports that TVR would be coming to America are still true? I've always wanted a Cerbera, but they are scant on this side of the pond. frown

Wedges are fairly easy to find here (they were the last TVRs officially sold here), but I really prefer the newer style cars. Then again, a Wedge might be all I could afford....

rampageturke

2,622 posts

163 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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Would love to see it back here in blackpool, but a bit of a far-fetched dream these days

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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JonRB said:
redgriff500 said:
Surely a RHD Corvette would be pretty much the same thing.
... apart from weighing about twice as much and having leaf springs on the rear. And being a Corvette.

smile
What TVR's weigh 735kg? confused

King Fisher

739 posts

180 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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Why doesn't he just start building Cerbs, Griffs and Chims again with LS engines in?

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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GTRene said:
here is a much better list of the Nurburgring times, 252 cars and say that Z06 with a Z07 package did even a 7.22 and the ZR1 did a 7.19.63 but the Porsche GT2 RS did it in 7.18 biggrin

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/nordschleife.htm...

here a few of the first 61 till just over 7.50
Isn't the GT2 RS basically a road legal race car, which you are comparing to 100% road cars. Well done rolleyes

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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redgriff500 said:
I must admit that I think they could do with being smaller - they are very big for a 2 seater. I probably wouldn't buy a LHD model either. I've driven many LHD car and its not an issue for trucks or slow cars but for a fast car I need RHD both for overtaking and the gear lever.
They aren't any bigger than similar cars though:

Length Width Height Weight
C6 Vette 174.6" 72.6" 49.1" 1470kg
997 Turbo 911 175.6 72.9 51.2" 1570kg
Cayman S 170.9" 70.9 51.4" 1415kg
Evora S 170.9" 72.8" 48.1" 1437kg




daytona365

1,773 posts

165 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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Is now the best time to rush out and buy the best authentic 'classic' TVR you can afford before prices skyrocket ??.................................................By the way 1.6 second difference on a 13 mile circuit ? yeh big deal !!

Edited by daytona365 on Sunday 13th November 19:30

JR

12,722 posts

259 months

Sunday 13th November 2011
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300bhp/ton said:
redgriff500 said:
I must admit that I think they could do with being smaller - they are very big for a 2 seater. I probably wouldn't buy a LHD model either. I've driven many LHD car and its not an issue for trucks or slow cars but for a fast car I need RHD both for overtaking and the gear lever.
They aren't any bigger than similar cars though:
Length Width Height Weight
C6 Vette 174.6" 72.6" 49.1" 1470kg
997 Turbo 911 175.6 72.9 51.2" 1570kg
Cayman S 170.9" 70.9 51.4" 1415kg

||=Evora S=||170.9"||72.8"||48.1"||1437kg||
Griffith 156"