RE: Meet the 200mph Ford Mustang Shelby GT500
Discussion
thirsty said:
An amazing car and I am lusting for one now. However ... There must be something fundamentally wrong with this chassis considering the money Ford spends to make this car something special, but still insist on sticking with that stupid solid rear axle. It's also puzzling because this car was based on the old Jag S Type chassis. This is an old argument to be sure, but with HP and perfomance starting to reach crazy proportions, why haven't they fixed it? Is Ford just being stuborn?
All said, I would still like one.
Lads were explaining on a thread before that the rear axle helps with launches...so the drag racers love itAll said, I would still like one.
thirsty said:
An amazing car and I am lusting for one now. However ... There must be something fundamentally wrong with this chassis considering the money Ford spends to make this car something special, but still insist on sticking with that stupid solid rear axle. It's also puzzling because this car was based on the old Jag S Type chassis. This is an old argument to be sure, but with HP and perfomance starting to reach crazy proportions, why haven't they fixed it? Is Ford just being stuborn?
All said, I would still like one.
The mention of "live axle" invokes the automotive equivalent of Godwin's Law on Mustang articles.All said, I would still like one.
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thirsty said:
An amazing car and I am lusting for one now. However ... There must be something fundamentally wrong with this chassis considering the money Ford spends to make this car something special, but still insist on sticking with that stupid solid rear axle. It's also puzzling because this car was based on the old Jag S Type chassis. This is an old argument to be sure, but with HP and perfomance starting to reach crazy proportions, why haven't they fixed it? Is Ford just being stuborn?
All said, I would still like one.
The Ford DC2 platform is not the same as the Jag:All said, I would still like one.
"D2C is loosely based on the Ford DEW platform which served as the basis for the Lincoln LS, Ford Thunderbird, and Jaguar S-Type. The 2005 Mustang was designed to use a "Lite" version of the DEW98 platform, but while that plan was eventually scrapped as too expensive, most D2C platform development completed prior to that decision was retained. This led to the carryover of several DEW98 chassis components. These components include the floor pans, portions of the transmission tunnel, the front frame rails, and basic fuel tank design. Differences between D2C and DEW98 are most noticeable in the suspension: The DEW98-based Lincoln LS uses a 4-wheel independent double wishbone suspension. The D2C platform's MacPherson strut front suspension and solid axle rear suspension are less expensive to produce than DEW's more complicated setup."
And therein lies the success of the Mustang - its affordability. You can have whatever you want but it will be more money and that was never the point of the Mustang and a stick axle is still best for drag racing and does OK on track too.
This is the swansong of the old-school 2005-on Mustang though. An all new Mustang is due in 2014 with IRS and it may be a more Euro, more weak-kneed, more conforming and hence duller car for the eternally brainwashed lemmings that think they want such a car.
jellison said:
If the ZR1 with 638bhp can't quite do 200 how is this BOX.
Ford now making top notch engines to take it to Chevy.
I do prefer the way Chevy do it with the modern interpretation on pushrod tech though, why all those extra moving parts when you can do it with less
The ZR1 does more than 200, I think it can hit 205 mph.Ford now making top notch engines to take it to Chevy.
I do prefer the way Chevy do it with the modern interpretation on pushrod tech though, why all those extra moving parts when you can do it with less
BelfastBoy said:
Love the colour in the photos but...what happens when you arrive at corners at speed? Does it handle or will you go down in a blaze of glory?!
You might want to have a read up regarding 05+ Mustang racing success before posting the entirely predictable 'American cars and corners' comment.I had a Saleen with 575BHP and remember doing 166mph in it and it was surprisingly stable and was still pulling hard but that was the top of 4th and never dared to load the engine up that hard in 5th as it was only 300BHP and was running 575BHP on stock internals.
I see no reason why this 7yr newer version with another 100BHP and 100lb/ft over what mine had can't do 200mph.
Awsome looking car!
I see no reason why this 7yr newer version with another 100BHP and 100lb/ft over what mine had can't do 200mph.
Awsome looking car!
I passed something that looked like this yesterday on the M1 (it was on the back of a trailer). Down the side it said 'The Dominator' 
Actually, I've just found it in the classifieds!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2393761.htm
Actually, I've just found it in the classifieds!
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2393761.htm
Gibbo205 said:
I had a Saleen with 575BHP and remember doing 166mph in it and it was surprisingly stable and was still pulling hard but that was the top of 4th and never dared to load the engine up that hard in 5th as it was only 300BHP and was running 575BHP on stock internals.
I see no reason why this 7yr newer version with another 100BHP and 100lb/ft over what mine had can't do 200mph.
Awsome looking car!
Still miss it then Andy? I see no reason why this 7yr newer version with another 100BHP and 100lb/ft over what mine had can't do 200mph.
Awsome looking car!
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