RE: LA Show: Subaru BRZ vs Toyota FT-86

[Beefmeister]

Either/or - just FFS RELEASE THE DAMN CAR TOYOTA!!!!!

This is easily the most drawn out release ever, and as such people really are getting bored of it before it has even been officially launched. Yawn.

Oh, and people keep mentioning the Alfa 4C - you'll probably be able to buy an FT-86 and a BRZ for the same cost as a 4C...

[w8cko]

Crow555 said:

I actually quite like the wing. It's not really in Subaru's character to make a subtle car.

+1 - but I could understand having it as an option (unless it screwed up the aerodynamics)...

[uncle tez]

jbi said:

been doing a bit of web prowling and there's all kinds of speculation out there, but it seem like they are aiming for a base price of $25,000 which is about £16,000 at current market rates

Doubt we will see it that cheap though

Even if it is $25K we wont get it for that price no matter what the exchange rate is. $25K seems to be about £30k to us these days. We always pay more

[Ali_T]

One article, might have been Autocar, said there will only be 500 BRZs next year because the Yen exchange rate with the pound is so unfavourable. It also suggested it won't be cheap.

[lionrampant]

Drop the spoiler a few inches and I'm sold. :up:

[Polrules]

My question would be - what happened to this??? Looked really good a couple of years ago, no so excited now...

[ktm301p]

Can't help but feel as though the Subaru already looks dated - very boring from the front.

[JJ78]

Polrules said:

My question would be - what happened to this??? Looked really good a couple of years ago, no so excited now..

the lines of the concept in your pic especially the rear arches are so much better...... that said, there's probably a very valid reason for the change, perhaps the newer concept is wider, or it aids rigidity having the profile changed..

[Ali_T]

....or someone forget to take the crayons off the designers in time. Another few months and it would have had antlers, gatling guns and a lifesize replica of R2-D2 on the roof...

[teeCup]

Ali_T said:

....or someone forget to take the crayons off the designers in time. Another few months and it would have had antlers, gatling guns and a lifesize replica of R2-D2 on the roof...

Genuine burst of laughter, busy but quiet office!

[forzaminardi]

The Subaru has been hit by the ugly stick but seems to be a tad more hardcore than the better-looking Toyota sister. Both promise to be great cars, not long now until the 'for real, honestly, this is it, done, finished, the real thing' launch in Tokyo...

[ItsaTVR]

kambites said:

The wing on the Subaru is awful. Otherwise it's a nice looking car.

"And that's what makes a Subaru a Subaru..." Do you get that advert slogan on your side of the pond?

Nice looking, overall yes. Would it look too much like a Honda S2000 if we flattened the tumorous RX8-ish fenders WINGs?

Edited by ItsaTVR on Friday 18th November 17:52

[ItsaTVR]

Ali_T said:

....or someone forget to take the crayons off the designers in time. Another few months and it would have had antlers, gatling guns and a lifesize replica of R2-D2 on the roof...

This!

[TinyCappo]

IS there any noise from either Toyota GB or Subaru GB on price (im guessing that its going to be "fixed" by both of them to somewhere just north of £25k!) and nigh on £35k for the STI version

I wish they had brought this out in June as planned rather than next year. For one Mrs Tiny is expecting now and I could have wangled a way to keep the car but now to go out and purchase one is just not going to happen .

[Black S2K]

kambites said:

I certainly don't feel that way because that was never the point of the car to my mind. There are plenty of coupes out there that major on style over substance, if that's what you want. The whole point of this one was that it would drive well so the fact that it doesn't look great is almost a relief because it shows that their focus has been elsewhere.

I don't think it's bad looking anyway. Just a bit generic.

I agree completely - I'm amazed how few seem to get the point of this (important) car.

Maybe people are just used to the disgustingly overstyled & underwhelming crap that other companies churn out these days.

I'm amazed by how some cannot even use the internet to research stuff too; it may be a Subaru engine & development, but it uses Toyota DI technology. And Indirect too for low-speed running/clean valves.