Car up for sale at £15k, guy offers me 12k!

Car up for sale at £15k, guy offers me 12k!

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carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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That does sound like a reasonable starting bid to me. Assuming it wasn't some twonk offering "Cash price bruv"... Who promptly turns up and offers you less!

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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anonymous said:
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This.

Somebody offering £3k below your asking price doesn't actually tell us much by itself.

Note also that it's buyers, not sellers who set final values. Either they're prepared to pay £X for vehicle Y or they're not, whatever else is on that market at whatever price.

i.e. If half a dozen people all make offers close to each other but miles away from what you want, that tells you what it's really worth when it comes to money changing hands for the car.

iantek

277 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Its not so bad is it? Its ok to be upset, I'd be upset and have had similar 'comedy' offers when selling a car but I at least gave them the opportunity to come round to my way of thinking. Now if they were absolutely insistent and the attitude was all wrong, then be all enraged.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

166 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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IrrElephant said:
rallycross said:
Cars are not selling, I sold my car last had to drop price to far below what I expected, the market is very slow - very few buyers, buyers know they are in a strong position.

Even things like run of the mill spec Golfs and Mini's are difficult to sell.

If you put your car on at a low price for the current market people will still expect a large drop in price from you.

20% off does not sound too bad if you are looking at the alternative which is to keep buying more adverts and get no phone calls!
Cars are selling. The right cars anyway.

20% off isn't a small margin off. If someone asked me for that off a car on ny forecourt, I'd be saying thanks, but no.

Edited by IrrElephant on Saturday 19th November 19:34
In the occasions I've bartered 20% less is entirely normal opening offer.

mercGLowner

1,668 posts

184 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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In a Mini dealer today, Wife's Cooper was being serviced, chatting to salesman, he showed me Glasses Guide which showed a £650 drop this month on a Cooper S Cab, that is the state of the market at the moment. He also looked at the figures for trading in the current Cooper for a new one, the car is £3000 in negative equity after two years! I think that says a lot about the parlous state of the car market. That is why people will be making cheeky offers, there are lots and lots of overpriced cars out there at the mo.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Jeezus, that is quite a drop. I dabble in the much lower echelons of the market which are hopefully slightly insulated from the worst of the drops...

kchika

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246 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Deerfoot said:
So, has your local dealer actually offered you more than £12,000?

Like Chicarito said, it's a starting bid, negotiate with the guy and see what happens!
Yes, and it's not just one dealer. Three dealers that I've phoned up have offered me more than £12,000.

kchika

Original Poster:

246 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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dibblecorse said:
what car is it ?
The car is a 2010/60 MINI Cooper S Hatchback.

kchika

Original Poster:

246 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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anonymous said:
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Yes, but the guy on the phone did say that he prefers mine because it's red and it's got full leather.

redtwin

7,518 posts

182 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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I have been offered far less than 20% under the advertised price in the past. I told him no, he increased his offer to an amount I found acceptable, we shook hands and deal done. Not really seeing the point in getting annoyed.

If you are the sort to get offended by low offers or haggling then decide a minimum you consider acceptable for your car, advertise it at that price and state that the price is firm and not negotiable.

IrrElephant

30,312 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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mercGLowner said:
In a Mini dealer today, Wife's Cooper was being serviced, chatting to salesman, he showed me Glasses Guide which showed a £650 drop this month on a Cooper S Cab, that is the state of the market at the moment. He also looked at the figures for trading in the current Cooper for a new one, the car is £3000 in negative equity after two years! I think that says a lot about the parlous state of the car market. That is why people will be making cheeky offers, there are lots and lots of overpriced cars out there at the mo.
Cabriolets always get hit hard this time of year. We buy them now and sell in June hehe

diddly69

695 posts

177 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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If you don't ask you don't get smile
In these times a good haggle is a must for the buyer even if it enrages the seller biggrin

Efbe

9,251 posts

166 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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kchika said:
Yes, and it's not just one dealer. Three dealers that I've phoned up have offered me more than £12,000.
I call bulls*** on this.

Whenever I have called a dealer, they will never say how much they would give in p/x over the phone. And I must have asked dozens of times.

The reasons for this are:
> They can't see the condition of the car.
> It's harder to do a deal over the phone.
> They are not going to make a deal with you over the phone, so most likely they will lose more money when you come into the dealer, than if they gave you an offer once at the dealer.
> They often like to see how eager you are to sell before offering a price.
> They want to know how serious you are about buying their car.

Eggman

1,253 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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My guess is that the bloke wants to give you somewhere around £13.5k. There's a script that must be followed:

S: Buy my car. £15k.
B: Give you £12k for it.
S: £12k? You should wear a mask. I won't take a penny less than £14.5k.
B: How about £13k? I'm a fool to myself, etc.
S: £13k? I wouldn't take me father's coat off for £13k!
B: Meet me half way, then. £13,750.
S: Ok, but I'm cutting my own throat. Cor blimey, it's taking the bread out of me kiddies' mouths blah blah.

Matt p

1,039 posts

208 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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AndyBrew said:
Well we traded in our JCW 2010 which we bought for £26K for £15K with a dealer so I would double check what a dealer is actually prepared to offer you on a Cooper S.
Wow! £11k in a year?.

I'd feel violated after that.

sjc

13,967 posts

270 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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kchika said:
Deerfoot said:
So, has your local dealer actually offered you more than £12,000?

Like Chicarito said, it's a starting bid, negotiate with the guy and see what happens!
Yes, and it's not just one dealer. Three dealers that I've phoned up have offered me more than £12,000.
If they've offered you 12 grand for an outright purchase ( rather than against another purchase) then you have three options.
1: Go back to cheeky bider and say 13K and it's yours.
2: Grab the traders arms off at 12 grand.
3: Stay with it and watch it depreciate another grand before Xmas and sit all through January waiting for the phone to ring.

carreauchompeur

17,846 posts

204 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Eggman said:
My guess is that the bloke wants to give you somewhere around £13.5k. There's a script that must be followed:

S: Buy my car. £15k.
B: Give you £12k for it.
S: £12k? You should wear a mask. I won't take a penny less than £14.5k.
B: How about £13k? I'm a fool to myself, etc.
S: £13k? I wouldn't take me father's coat off for £13k!
B: Meet me half way, then. £13,750.
S: 'Old out yer 'and.
EAIMBWSTC



IrrElephant

30,312 posts

160 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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Eggman said:
My guess is that the bloke wants to give you somewhere around £13.5k. There's a script that must be followed:

S: Buy my car. £15k.
B: Give you £12k for it.
S: £12k? You should wear a mask. I won't take a penny less than £14.5k.
B: How about £13k? I'm a fool to myself, etc.
S: £13k? I wouldn't take me father's coat off for £13k!
B: Meet me half way, then. £13,750.
S: Ok, but I'm cutting my own throat. Cor blimey, it's taking the bread out of me kiddies' mouths blah blah.
Oi, you're nicking my catchphrases there hehe

Turn7

23,610 posts

221 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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First rule of negotiation as a buyer - if your first bid doesnt embarass you, its to high.

Edited by Turn7 on Saturday 19th November 21:10

whoami

13,151 posts

240 months

Saturday 19th November 2011
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kchika said:
Deerfoot said:
So, has your local dealer actually offered you more than £12,000?

Like Chicarito said, it's a starting bid, negotiate with the guy and see what happens!
Yes, and it's not just one dealer. Three dealers that I've phoned up have offered me more than £12,000.
You might well have to take that.