RE: New Porsche 911: the specs
Discussion
Lumpit said:
Hold on chaps, you've forgotten option M96 -
£18,474.25 "Engine guaranteed to blow up in under 50,000 miles due to IMS/D chunk/oval bores/catastrophic engine failure."
911 engines haven't had an IMS since late 2008 as the engine was completely redesigned, do you know of a gen2 engine that has failed? £18,474.25 "Engine guaranteed to blow up in under 50,000 miles due to IMS/D chunk/oval bores/catastrophic engine failure."
Zod said:
"Sound Symposer" eh? Funny how the M5 is getting slated for this silliness, but not the Porsche.
Whilst it's not as totally, completely and utterly cancel-my-order wrong as the BMW system, it's still wrong:http://www.sae.org/mags/sve/10374/
geoffracing said:
Zwolf said:
Some Gump said:
After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
Nor the Germans really...What a pity the Brits make nearly all racing cars, but can't make an everyday car...
I've had so many, and they ALL went wrong. Sorry.
I didn't go mad, just honestly specced one with what i would want and still got to £101k!
I have a 997T whilst my dad has a Cayenne Diesel. We both spent about £75k, and i have to say the Cayenne is the better all-round car by some margin. The extra interior bits really make the difference.
I have a 997T whilst my dad has a Cayenne Diesel. We both spent about £75k, and i have to say the Cayenne is the better all-round car by some margin. The extra interior bits really make the difference.
edo said:
Blame the EU (Why don't we just leave it?), and some bullst regulation about the size of wing mirrors.
I remember in 97 or 98 when the EU got involved and fought pan-european car price fixing which resulted in Porsche dropping its UK prices by 15% overnight to comply.No one moaned about the EU then, not even Daily Mail readers.
Some Gump said:
@ people mocking the pricing structure, it's actually very clever. You see it in action everywhere, every day.
e.g - go to a restaurant.
First, an observation: some people are more price sensitive than others. This can be due to income levels, whether they are a tightwad in general, whether they really care about the item i question etc etc.
The boss needs full tables to keep himself earning well. To fill tables, you need to offer stuff at pricing that doesn't put off price sensitive people. Cue the 12 quid main. However, the restauranteur also wants to get more money off people who are not price sensitive. Enter stage left, the £8 quid starter. Price sensitive man will not say "ahm not paying 8 quid for a starter. It's half the size of the main". Price insensitive people will simply buy one. As with all cases where people are price insensitive, the price is higher for that part (i.e more profit for the restaurant).
So, basic meal - 12 quid. Fully loaded (starter and sweet) £12 + 8 + 5 - that's £13 of options on a £12 "basic spec".
You see this every day - in pubs, Tescos, the Kosovans down the road that wash your car, barbers, Next, TV shops, you name it. Noone bats an eyelid. Apply the same to cars, and people think it's mad.
I understand that one would expect a 60k car to come with cruise control. However, if Porsche sold all the cars fully loaded for 70k, they would miss out on all that lovely margin selling cars at 90k with a mill cost 3k higher than the 65k car. If they did that, they'd take home less money for the same work, and have less to plough into the campaign to stop those pesky French trying to win their home race with those horrible diesels. After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
I see your point entirely.... BUT some of the things you have to pay extra for on this car is the equivalent of going to that restaurant and having the £12 meal, but being told that its another 50pence if you want to add salt and pepper, and an extra 25pence if you want a napkin. Want Mustard? That’s going to cost you £2.00.e.g - go to a restaurant.
First, an observation: some people are more price sensitive than others. This can be due to income levels, whether they are a tightwad in general, whether they really care about the item i question etc etc.
The boss needs full tables to keep himself earning well. To fill tables, you need to offer stuff at pricing that doesn't put off price sensitive people. Cue the 12 quid main. However, the restauranteur also wants to get more money off people who are not price sensitive. Enter stage left, the £8 quid starter. Price sensitive man will not say "ahm not paying 8 quid for a starter. It's half the size of the main". Price insensitive people will simply buy one. As with all cases where people are price insensitive, the price is higher for that part (i.e more profit for the restaurant).
So, basic meal - 12 quid. Fully loaded (starter and sweet) £12 + 8 + 5 - that's £13 of options on a £12 "basic spec".
You see this every day - in pubs, Tescos, the Kosovans down the road that wash your car, barbers, Next, TV shops, you name it. Noone bats an eyelid. Apply the same to cars, and people think it's mad.
I understand that one would expect a 60k car to come with cruise control. However, if Porsche sold all the cars fully loaded for 70k, they would miss out on all that lovely margin selling cars at 90k with a mill cost 3k higher than the 65k car. If they did that, they'd take home less money for the same work, and have less to plough into the campaign to stop those pesky French trying to win their home race with those horrible diesels. After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
richard300 said:
I see your point entirely.... BUT some of the things you have to pay extra for on this car is the equivalent of going to that restaurant and having the £12 meal, but being told that its another 50pence if you want to add salt and pepper, and an extra 25pence if you want a napkin. Want Mustard? That’s going to cost you £2.00.
Porsche is a want product, not a need product. So anything goes.Is Apple a bit like that?
twoblacklines said:
BTW, what the fk is a sound symposer? Google reveals its some kind of naughty boy racer add on for the 1.6 focus.
A post within this very thread holds a detailed answer: Trommel said:
Cassius81 said:
_Deano said:
More money than sense?
Then go for the Cayenne Turbo £130,326
Total Price* £ 130,326.00
Wouldn't a Cayenne Turbo S make a better starting point? Or am I missing something?Then go for the Cayenne Turbo £130,326
Total Price* £ 130,326.00
- including VAT
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