RE: New Porsche 911: the specs

RE: New Porsche 911: the specs

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Wills2

22,894 posts

176 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Lumpit said:
Hold on chaps, you've forgotten option M96 -

£18,474.25 "Engine guaranteed to blow up in under 50,000 miles due to IMS/D chunk/oval bores/catastrophic engine failure."
911 engines haven't had an IMS since late 2008 as the engine was completely redesigned, do you know of a gen2 engine that has failed?




Trommel

19,144 posts

260 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Zod said:
"Sound Symposer" eh? Funny how the M5 is getting slated for this silliness, but not the Porsche.
Whilst it's not as totally, completely and utterly cancel-my-order wrong as the BMW system, it's still wrong:

http://www.sae.org/mags/sve/10374/

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Makes an m5 seem like a bargain. I know they appeal to different types but people a bit tight on cash would definitely look at a m5.

geoffracing

617 posts

176 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Zwolf said:
Some Gump said:
After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
Nor the Germans really...
Sounds very pro-British!

What a pity the Brits make nearly all racing cars, but can't make an everyday car...
I've had so many, and they ALL went wrong. Sorry.

j_s14a

863 posts

179 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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geoffracing said:
Zwolf said:
Some Gump said:
After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
Nor the Germans really...
Sounds very pro-British!

What a pity the Brits make nearly all racing cars, but can't make an everyday car...
I've had so many, and they ALL went wrong. Sorry.
We can build cars just fine. Unfortunately, our production lines got taken over by Commies biggrin

nsmith1180

3,941 posts

179 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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edo said:
pah


Description No. Info Price
911 Carrera S £ 74,515.00
Exterior Colour
GT Silver Metallic U2
£ 1,805.00
Interior Colour
lots more:

Total Price* £ 121,367.00
yikes I thought I did well getting to 107k

hondansx

4,570 posts

226 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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I didn't go mad, just honestly specced one with what i would want and still got to £101k!

I have a 997T whilst my dad has a Cayenne Diesel. We both spent about £75k, and i have to say the Cayenne is the better all-round car by some margin. The extra interior bits really make the difference.

Burnham

3,668 posts

260 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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£97k for my ideal spec..bargain!

Merle

66 posts

169 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Porsche has become an incredible rip-off company and then brags about about it! The most profitable car company in the world indeed! Who does that benefit? These cars are now depreciating as quickly as any other German luxo barge and are close to a match on your retirement fund.

Frik

13,542 posts

244 months

Monday 21st November 2011
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Merle said:
he most profitable car company in the world indeed! Who does that benefit?
Given that it gives them more money to develop new cars: us, I think.

El Guapo

2,787 posts

191 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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hondansx said:
I have a 997T whilst my dad has a Cayenne Diesel and i have to say the Cayenne is the better all-round car by some margin.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Merle said:
The most profitable car company in the world indeed! Who does that benefit?
Its shareholders, employees, suppliers, the German economy and therefore their taxpayers...

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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VW

nickfrog

21,203 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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edo said:
Blame the EU (Why don't we just leave it?), and some bullst regulation about the size of wing mirrors.
I remember in 97 or 98 when the EU got involved and fought pan-european car price fixing which resulted in Porsche dropping its UK prices by 15% overnight to comply.

No one moaned about the EU then, not even Daily Mail readers.

richard300

1,085 posts

210 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Some Gump said:
@ people mocking the pricing structure, it's actually very clever. You see it in action everywhere, every day.

e.g - go to a restaurant.

First, an observation: some people are more price sensitive than others. This can be due to income levels, whether they are a tightwad in general, whether they really care about the item i question etc etc.

The boss needs full tables to keep himself earning well. To fill tables, you need to offer stuff at pricing that doesn't put off price sensitive people. Cue the 12 quid main. However, the restauranteur also wants to get more money off people who are not price sensitive. Enter stage left, the £8 quid starter. Price sensitive man will not say "ahm not paying 8 quid for a starter. It's half the size of the main". Price insensitive people will simply buy one. As with all cases where people are price insensitive, the price is higher for that part (i.e more profit for the restaurant).

So, basic meal - 12 quid. Fully loaded (starter and sweet) £12 + 8 + 5 - that's £13 of options on a £12 "basic spec".

You see this every day - in pubs, Tescos, the Kosovans down the road that wash your car, barbers, Next, TV shops, you name it. Noone bats an eyelid. Apply the same to cars, and people think it's mad.

I understand that one would expect a 60k car to come with cruise control. However, if Porsche sold all the cars fully loaded for 70k, they would miss out on all that lovely margin selling cars at 90k with a mill cost 3k higher than the 65k car. If they did that, they'd take home less money for the same work, and have less to plough into the campaign to stop those pesky French trying to win their home race with those horrible diesels. After all, we don't want to see the French winning, do we?
I see your point entirely.... BUT some of the things you have to pay extra for on this car is the equivalent of going to that restaurant and having the £12 meal, but being told that its another 50pence if you want to add salt and pepper, and an extra 25pence if you want a napkin. Want Mustard? That’s going to cost you £2.00.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

172 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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richard300 said:
I see your point entirely.... BUT some of the things you have to pay extra for on this car is the equivalent of going to that restaurant and having the £12 meal, but being told that its another 50pence if you want to add salt and pepper, and an extra 25pence if you want a napkin. Want Mustard? That’s going to cost you £2.00.
Porsche is a want product, not a need product. So anything goes.

Is Apple a bit like that?


Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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That was quick, 991 convertible announced: http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/275551/porsche_9...


twoblacklines

1,575 posts

162 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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I am glad this is out. It means I should be able to afford a 997 C2S soon biggrin

As soon as they hit £18k I can buy one!

BTW, what the fk is a sound symposer? Google reveals its some kind of naughty boy racer add on for the 1.6 focus.

Zwolf

25,867 posts

207 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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twoblacklines said:
BTW, what the fk is a sound symposer? Google reveals its some kind of naughty boy racer add on for the 1.6 focus.
A post within this very thread holds a detailed answer:

Trommel said:

_Deano

7,406 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2011
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Cassius81 said:
_Deano said:
More money than sense?
Then go for the Cayenne Turbo £130,326


Total Price* £ 130,326.00
  • including VAT
Wouldn't a Cayenne Turbo S make a better starting point? Or am I missing something?
Just double checked and there is no option for a Turbo S. but i think that the power pack is the S option. 540BHP.