2 Stroke in Diesel. Test car - BMW 320d.
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Yep...this works on all diesel motors....however....keep the dosing right....if your on a pre common rail oil burner it isn't so critical....
I run 20% veg oil in mine this time of year and tried the 2 stroke route before using veg....
With the 2 stroke you will push out less "coal" out of the tailpipe ...much cleaner running too....for me as I cam use veg oil I get really clean running very little smoke and at MOT they don't bother with the smoke test and emissions as it's too low to bother...
What veg and 2 stroke do is clean the fuel pump and injectors so everything runs smoother...simple really ..
I run 20% veg oil in mine this time of year and tried the 2 stroke route before using veg....
With the 2 stroke you will push out less "coal" out of the tailpipe ...much cleaner running too....for me as I cam use veg oil I get really clean running very little smoke and at MOT they don't bother with the smoke test and emissions as it's too low to bother...
What veg and 2 stroke do is clean the fuel pump and injectors so everything runs smoother...simple really ..
My e46 320d has been on a diet of added 2 stroke by myself & it's previous owner for nearly 3 years.
Does seem to run smoother & quieter but could be a placebo affect I must admit.
It hasn't broken in that time, which has been over many thousands of miles.
However I also prefer to put in Forté Diesel treatment every few months or so as well. DD
Does seem to run smoother & quieter but could be a placebo affect I must admit.
It hasn't broken in that time, which has been over many thousands of miles.
However I also prefer to put in Forté Diesel treatment every few months or so as well. DD
DPF on a 2006 - Unlucky.Give it a double check to see if one is fitted(if you haven't done so already) DPF was an option on the 163 engine and compulsory in the 177 made in 2007.
As for 2 stroke,I wouldn't put it in mine,even for a test.I do use millers additive mind with every tankful to aid in keeping things clean.
As for 2 stroke,I wouldn't put it in mine,even for a test.I do use millers additive mind with every tankful to aid in keeping things clean.
y2blade said:
300bhp/ton said:
But without reason that advice is pretty pointless. You need to know why it can or can't be used.
Also an indi mechanic, or any mechanic for that matter is unlikely to be an expert on the subject, unless they have some specific reason to be an expert that is. But general mechanics certainly won't cover such things.
Also an indi mechanic, or any mechanic for that matter is unlikely to be an expert on the subject, unless they have some specific reason to be an expert that is. But general mechanics certainly won't cover such things.
do you have a standing argument with everyone you ask a question of in real life?I asked the mechanic if it was a good idea or not...his reply is pretty much word for word how I typed it.
should I have pestered him some more you think?
his reply was good enough for me...I had no reason to call him a Liar!
Personally I'd have found it interesting more than anything else.
300bhp/ton said:
y2blade said:
300bhp/ton said:
But without reason that advice is pretty pointless. You need to know why it can or can't be used.
Also an indi mechanic, or any mechanic for that matter is unlikely to be an expert on the subject, unless they have some specific reason to be an expert that is. But general mechanics certainly won't cover such things.
Also an indi mechanic, or any mechanic for that matter is unlikely to be an expert on the subject, unless they have some specific reason to be an expert that is. But general mechanics certainly won't cover such things.
do you have a standing argument with everyone you ask a question of in real life?I asked the mechanic if it was a good idea or not...his reply is pretty much word for word how I typed it.
should I have pestered him some more you think?
his reply was good enough for me...I had no reason to call him a Liar!
Personally I'd have found it interesting more than anything else.
If he said it is not good, then that is enough for me.
Panda76 said:
DPF on a 2006 - Unlucky.Give it a double check to see if one is fitted(if you haven't done so already) DPF was an option on the 163 engine and compulsory in the 177 made in 2007.
As for 2 stroke,I wouldn't put it in mine,even for a test.I do use millers additive mind with every tankful to aid in keeping things clean.
Definitely no DPF on mine, my exhaust is Bastuck aftermarket.As for 2 stroke,I wouldn't put it in mine,even for a test.I do use millers additive mind with every tankful to aid in keeping things clean.
Apparently if you use the correct stuff it's actually better for the DPF anyway. This is because the fuel burns more efficiently, producing less particulates.
y2blade said:
Nope, I didn't care "why"...I respect that he knows what he's talking about enough not to question it.
If he said it is not good, then that is enough for me.
It's good to take advice, I'd probably be put off if I was given the same info. If he said it is not good, then that is enough for me.
If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
80sboy said:
It's good to take advice, I'd probably be put off if I was given the same info.
If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Next time I see him I'll ask for more info as to "why" he says it is not a good thing to do on a modern diesel engine.If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Stu R said:
cptsideways said:
I've heaps of 2 stroke oil here, shant be using it over the winter as the boat is tucked away.
Hmm, 4.2 TD Landcruiser, 1.9TDI VAG lump & a Volvo Dci in our fleet, time to experiment me thinks.
Land cruisers and 1.9TDI VAG units will run on any old turps Hmm, 4.2 TD Landcruiser, 1.9TDI VAG lump & a Volvo Dci in our fleet, time to experiment me thinks.
PS. Boat = jealous!
y2blade said:
80sboy said:
It's good to take advice, I'd probably be put off if I was given the same info.
If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Next time I see him I'll ask for more info as to "why" he says it is not a good thing to do on a modern diesel engine.If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Or they might be getting mixed up with biofuels and veg oil.
300bhp/ton said:
y2blade said:
80sboy said:
It's good to take advice, I'd probably be put off if I was given the same info.
If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Next time I see him I'll ask for more info as to "why" he says it is not a good thing to do on a modern diesel engine.If you're interested, I'd do some more research of your own and talk to some others who've tried it.
Like I said, this is the first bad thing I've heard about it... without reason too.
Or they might be getting mixed up with biofuels and veg oil.
I specificly asked about putting 2-stroke oil into the diesel fuel tank, as I'd read about it while I was researching ahead of buying my D5.
80sboy said:
Just make sure it's not fully synthetic, apparently this doesn't burn properly and drips out of your exhaust! Mineral oil is the stuff.
This is the odd bit to me. I would expect the fully synthetic 2 squeak oils to burn more fully with less deposits.I am also a bit unsure about what adding the 2 stroke oil should do. I would expect it to make combustion worse while providing a little extra lubrication (as it would in a 2 stroke petrol engine), but would expect the lubrication to be unnecessary.
However, these are just my thoughts, and beyond this thread I have nothing as evidence either way.
All the best
Keith
Kickstart68 said:
80sboy said:
Just make sure it's not fully synthetic, apparently this doesn't burn properly and drips out of your exhaust! Mineral oil is the stuff.
This is the odd bit to me. I would expect the fully synthetic 2 squeak oils to burn more fully with less deposits.I am also a bit unsure about what adding the 2 stroke oil should do. I would expect it to make combustion worse while providing a little extra lubrication (as it would in a 2 stroke petrol engine), but would expect the lubrication to be unnecessary.
However, these are just my thoughts, and beyond this thread I have nothing as evidence either way.
All the best
Keith
Mineral oil burns very well, better than diesel in fact which also encourages cleaner burning of the diesel too. Some say semi-synthetic is okay.
Read my first post, this highlights all of the benefits. It's info I've collected from reading many other threads.
Hi
I did read the first post. Trouble is I don't see how adding an extra fairly poor burning oil to the diesel would help with most of those things (helping lubricate the pump and maybe injectors isn't a surprise). Opened up too many coked up 2 strokes over the years
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Bonus is that if you chose the right 2 squeak oil the exhaust will smell nice
All the best
Keith
I did read the first post. Trouble is I don't see how adding an extra fairly poor burning oil to the diesel would help with most of those things (helping lubricate the pump and maybe injectors isn't a surprise). Opened up too many coked up 2 strokes over the years
.Bonus is that if you chose the right 2 squeak oil the exhaust will smell nice
All the best
Keith
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