RE: Driven: Range Rover Evoque SD4 2.2 Dynamic Coupe

RE: Driven: Range Rover Evoque SD4 2.2 Dynamic Coupe

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unrepentant

21,259 posts

256 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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nickfrog said:
unrepentant said:
That whole post makes no sense!

If you were to buy something lower and RWD you would be buying something completely different in a different class that would be less practical!
Off-roaders (or pseudo off-roaders) are not very practical, their volume is compromised by how high their floor pan and load area are and how much space is taken by the transmission/suspension/wheels. A RWD estate would be more practical and offer more volume.
And would be utterly crap in the snow. Which makes it not very practical if you live where it snows.

The Evoque is surprisingly spacious, I suspect a lot of people who have posted negatives here have not actually driven one. The LR4 (Disco) is huge (90cu ft of carrying capacity) and it has 7 seats and the ability to go anywhwere. Where's the compromise there?

dandarez

13,286 posts

283 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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Somebody in current Autocar's Letter page from Oxford (not me) said he had spotted 3 of these beasts recently.
He had only one comment: Ugly!

Well, I've just followed my first, not for long though... I sped past to have a good deckers).
He's right, it's ugly as hell.

How does it drive? How do I know, so won't comment.

Would I buy?
No way, iiiiiit's aaaaaaaaa trrrrruuuuuck!
I hate any kinda truck.

And after all the hatred on here for the new MINI Coupe, and the slaggers saying it looks like an elephant has sat on it, well...
all I can say is, in the flesh, the Evoque looks like a bloody dinosaur has sat on it!

paulmon

2,138 posts

241 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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So much hate. Hate leads to anger, anger leads to fear, fear leads to suffering.

Bill

52,770 posts

255 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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unrepentant said:
Where's the compromise there?
Speed, handling and economy. And while Disco has the same sized boot as an S-Max, the SMax has more rear leg room. And you can move the middle row of seats forward on an SMax.

Trommel

19,121 posts

259 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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An S-MAX can't tow 3.5 tonnes or drive up a mountain though.

Bill

52,770 posts

255 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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Which is, of course, why people buy Discoveries wink

Everything's compromised one way or another, if you want something that can tow the Ark Royal and scale Ben Nevis then you have to out up with a smaller interior and poorer dynamics. If you want something large that handles and has a decent turn of speed you need to look like you've handed your bks to your wife.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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Yorkshirepud said:
Dagnut said:
So this gets 125+ comments and 7 pages...and a 420bhp RWD roadster from Merc can only barley muster up 2 pages in about 4 days....what does this tell us about PH?
It says people on here are always way too quick to moan about things than praise them.
Most posts these days are about mpg or the latest diesel bore-box. Shame really.

Banjo47

178 posts

226 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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If Victoria likes it thats good enough for me :spins:

unrepentant

21,259 posts

256 months

Monday 28th November 2011
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dandarez said:
Would I buy?
No way, iiiiiit's aaaaaaaaa trrrrruuuuuck!
I hate any kinda truck.
Then your opinion would seem to be slightly redundant on this thread............

Kawasicki

13,084 posts

235 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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nickfrog said:
unrepentant said:
That whole post makes no sense!

If you were to buy something lower and RWD you would be buying something completely different in a different class that would be less practical!
Off-roaders (or pseudo off-roaders) are not very practical, their volume is compromised by how high their floor pan and load area are and how much space is taken by the transmission/suspension/wheels. A RWD estate would be more practical and offer more volume.
I rate on road vehicle dynamics as very important, cars which are designed to drive off road have compromised on road vehicle dynamics. I don't drive off road, so my preference is for road use optimised cars. Plus I like rwd, even below the limit, in normal road use. That's before you even take interior space and cost into account.

nickfrog

21,162 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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unrepentant said:
And would be utterly crap in the snow.
Winter tyres on a RWD will give you better traction than summer tyres on a 4wd where the rubber will be rock hard in the cold.


CO2000

3,177 posts

209 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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m8rky said:
CO2000 said:
Symbolica said:
I really want to like this, but this side view:



Just makes it look ridiculous.
Just nakes it look like an Allegro !
Do you mean a Princess?






and yes I agree,I saw two Evoques yesterday,the first I have seen and my first thought was one of these.
I'm thinking a blend of Allegro/Princess & Maxi.

but I did like the white one I saw (5dr) & I see the 4wd one is only 1k more than the 2wd, they will do very well.

Cotic

469 posts

152 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Bill said:
If you want something large that handles and has a decent turn of speed you need to look like you've handed your bks to your wife.
Well done Sir! Made me chuckle...

Polarbert

17,923 posts

231 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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I really don't know how they can get away with calling it a coupe. Its a 4x4, you'd call it a hatchback at most.

Also, 44 grand for a 2.2 diesel engine is obscene. It actually makes me want to.vomit.

eddieantifreeze

74 posts

158 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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GerryKahn said:
For anyone considering one just realise this - the 'Design Executive Director' for this car was Victoria Beckham. True story.

Ohterwise a good car, i've driven a couple and they certainly turns heads, although that could be me i am gorgeous...
This one has been covered alot but as someone else has said.

She was brought in early, commented on the interior, never seen again.

You may also notice that LR spotted its own mistake and went all quiet on the VB thing, its just the press that think its a very amusing joke to talk about how she designed the entire car (not mentioning any names - top gear)

unrepentant

21,259 posts

256 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Polarbert said:
Also, 44 grand for a 2.2 diesel engine is obscene. It actually makes me want to.vomit.
Why? Because you can't afford it? You think a Jag XF diesel is obscene too? You can pay over 50 grand for one of those. Do you think they should be banned and everyone should be compelled to drive cheap old small French cars because you have to? Maybe they should bring back Lada's and everyone should be made to own one so you can feel better.

paulmon

2,138 posts

241 months

Thursday 1st December 2011
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Polarbert said:
I really don't know how they can get away with calling it a coupe. Its a 4x4, you'd call it a hatchback at most.

Also, 44 grand for a 2.2 diesel engine is obscene. It actually makes me want to.vomit.
So if they rammed a screaming V8 in there it would be OK rolleyes

DeadMeat_UK

3,058 posts

282 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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Saw my first one in the flesh last night.

Waaaaay bigger than I expected, it's certainly got some presence.

I really liked it. getmecoat

HMMMM wonder if that famous Range Rover tuner that I can't remember the name of will get their grubby mits on it. Could be.... interesting...

CO2000

3,177 posts

209 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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DeadMeat_UK said:
HMMMM wonder if that famous Range Rover tuner that I can't remember the name of will get their grubby mits on it. Could be.... interesting...
Kahn whistle

Beefmeister

16,482 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th December 2011
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DeadMeat_UK said:
HMMMM wonder if that famous Range Rover tuner that I can't remember the name of will get their grubby mits on it. Could be.... interesting...
It would appear it's on the way...