Remote start

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FrankNBeans

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1,863 posts

191 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Has anybody got remote start fitted for the winter months?

I had it fitted to my Cav Turbo a few years ago but that was part of the alarm system, I am thinking about getting it done, but just want a stand alone system - I believe Clifford do the 1.2 remote start stand alone but is there anymore out there that you are aware of?


Byard

539 posts

175 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Why do you want a remote start?

rallycross

12,805 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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We had it on a Focus last winter was such a good thing to have a nice warm and defrosted car with hot seats.

You look out the window in the morning, press the buttons on the key fob, the car starts itself, but remains locked, puts its lights on and warms up nicely while you get ready to leave.

It was a Toad system and worked very well.



Edited by rallycross on Friday 25th November 09:55

Rollcage

11,327 posts

193 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Technically illegal though, certainly if parked on the road!

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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I've got it on my Clifford, however it can technically void your insurance when activated as they say the car can be started without the keys. Yes that's correct but where is the fob kept? That's right it on my keys!!!!

  • *eta*** it is sooo handy for defrosting the car, or in the summer to cool it down before you get in. I never use mine now as I have a garage.
Edited by eybic on Friday 25th November 09:39

twiglove

1,178 posts

195 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Yep, Got it, Its awesome, It automatically detects the outside temp and puts Heating/Heated seats/Window defrost or AC smile very useful

CypherP

4,387 posts

193 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Didn't the BMW X5 have some kind of programme built into the onboard computer that started the engine at a programmable time, with temperature settings etc? Seem to remember the early 4.4 versions doing this kind of thing.

Theflyer

228 posts

152 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Webasto heater, running off diesel.

danyeates

7,248 posts

223 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Like the new Disco 4. It has a Webasto diesel heater so the engine is never started from cold.

I found out it was even an option on the diesel Octavia, although not in this country. You could set a timer so it would start automatically each morning, or you could start it with the fob from inside. Must be soooo nice to get in a nice warm car with heated seats and a pre-defrosted window. Also, the heating system must heat the engine coolant, which heats the engine, so you're never starting a cold engine. Nice.

Durzel

12,273 posts

169 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Afaik it's illegal to leave a car running unattended. Insurance might be a bit iffy too - I believe some cheapo remote start systems require the immobiliser to be tricked into believing the key is in the ignition by having the chip from the key close to the barrel!

That being said I've got remote start on my Type-R and it was fantastic last winter for the reasons already stated.

edit: Definitely illegal according to Regulation 98 ad Regulation 107 of the The Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) Regulations 1986.

edit 2: Having said the above it seems there are exclusions for leaving cars unattended and running (or automation thereof) for the purposes of keeping a battery charged, etc. So maybe it is a grey area after all.

Edited by Durzel on Friday 25th November 10:03

rallycross

12,805 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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If its illeagal then it just shows the law is an ass.

Do we need this law to tell me I cant switch on my own car on, in my own drive way, of my own house?

The car is locked, has no key so you cant turn the steering wheel even if you did break in to it.


alangla

4,820 posts

182 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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The manual for my Focus mentions a Webasto type gubbins, but I've never seen it as an option here. I always assumed it was intended for the Scandinavian market but I reckon you'd shift loads of them as options in this country, especially after the last two winters.

danyeates

7,248 posts

223 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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alangla said:
The manual for my Focus mentions a Webasto type gubbins, but I've never seen it as an option here. I always assumed it was intended for the Scandinavian market but I reckon you'd shift loads of them as options in this country, especially after the last two winters.
I enquired about it when I had my Skoda. It can be retrofitted, but it was very expensive. About £2k IIRC.

eybic

9,212 posts

175 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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rallycross said:
If its illeagal then it just shows the law is an ass.

Do we need this law to tell me I cant switch on my own car on, in my own drive way, of my own house?

The car is locked, has no key so you cant turn the steering wheel even if you did break in to it.
The issue afaik is incase something happens to the car whilst it's running such as fire etc. or if you try starting it whilst it is in gear, it will just keep going until it hits something.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

216 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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I used to have remote start on my DeLorean.

Lots of fun with the tourists returning to it when it was parked outside my office in Covent Garden.

FaineantFreddy

8,577 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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I made my own remote start system out of a few relays and a RC transmitter/receiver back in the '80's. Just had to remember to check it was out of gear, as I didn't bother with any safety lock-outs.

Meant I could have an extra 10 minutes in bed on a frosty morning sleep

Haven't really missed it in recent years, but then maybe that's because we don't have such harsh winters any more?

fflyingdog

621 posts

240 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Most Intelistart systems you have to activate with engine running and the doors locked,thus the car wont be left running in gear.On mine as soon as you open the doors with remote you have 30 seconds to put key into ignition and turn to on position, as well as hitting brake pedal other wise engine will just stop.If you break into car with engine running and no key into ignition the car will stop and activate immobiliser if you dont hit brake pedal before pulling away engine will again stop.I should add that mines a Clifford alarm immobiliser really reliable and only ever gone off once when the house we lived in had the garage next to the kitchen,when ever the microwave was used with kitchen/garage door open alarm would activate.

Skater12

507 posts

159 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Forget the law, they are just silly to retro-fit i think.
If you have a new range rover then a pre-warmer can be selected as an option, but then you're talking about a car worth upward of £70k.

A friend fitted a remote started to his Mk1 Focus RS a few years back, but as it was a faily basic kit it failed to recognise when the car was IN GEAR !

the outcome........ hilarious for all but the owner!

rallycross

12,805 posts

238 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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Skater12 said:
A friend fitted a remote started to his Mk1 Focus RS a few years back, but as it was a faily basic kit it failed to recognise when the car was IN GEAR !
It goes without saying you dont leave the car in gear when you park up if you plan to use the remote start in the morning.

Only a complete retard would be stupid enough to fit a remote start and then use it unless left in neutral.

edited to fix retarded spelling fail.

Edited by rallycross on Friday 25th November 11:44

5lab

1,657 posts

197 months

Friday 25th November 2011
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its not illegal if your car is not on the public roads

I'm also not sure its illegal if it is on public roads. a lot of refrigerated lorries start themselves when they feel like it - surely if you can't drive off (as there's no key) its not 'quitting'?