Put me off buying an Escalade...
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braddo said:
A P38 Rangie with a couple of dags in the back parked in a caravan site has a better image than Escalades in the UK.
I dont believe that was a p38, if youre talking about the bit from the film snarch then it was definately a classic, anyway, my brother likes all of that 50 cent stuff and when i asked my sisters boyfriend(hes 14) what he thought about them he said "blud that whips what me and shawty ride in when im makin paper" i nearly hit him, but anyways its your money op why not? Before the price of petrol becomes such that even a luke warm hatch is mental!off_again said:
Had a 2011 model as an upgraded hire car in the US recently. Hateful, nasty, cheap interior, poor performance, bouncy ride and terrible handling - and that is me being nice!
To be honest, they are cheap, fully loaded and seem to last well. But there is a reason why they are on hire car fleets these days! But I have said it many times before, American cars work in America. They were designed to fit a need there. So if you are in the US then great, why not. Anywhere else? Forget it.
I got one last year in Florida and thought it was awesome! Just as you say though, perfect in its natural environment of wide freeway cruising and enormous parking spaces.To be honest, they are cheap, fully loaded and seem to last well. But there is a reason why they are on hire car fleets these days! But I have said it many times before, American cars work in America. They were designed to fit a need there. So if you are in the US then great, why not. Anywhere else? Forget it.
It wasn't bad on fuel either. Averaged 18MPG (US) which is 22.5MPG in UK gallons. The engine drops into V4 mode as soon as its cruising.
s off greenies ...
mattmoxon said:
It might ride badly on ridiculous wheels but what car doesn't, handling hmmm it's a 5800lb SUV, to expect it to handle like anything other than the barge that it is is silly 
Maybe the 5800 lbs with a CoG of the Twin Towers pre-9/11 is the problem.I can forgive a car riding badly if it handles well.
I can forgive a car that handles badly if it rides well.
Why on earth would you want a vehicle that handles and rides badly?
I can forgive a car being slow when it's good on fuel.
I can forgive a car being bad on fuel if it's genuinely fast.
Why on earth would you want a car that's not fast and still drinks like a fish?
I can forgive a car being big if it's roomy inside.
I can forgive a car being cramped if it's small and agile.
Why on earth would you want a car that is huge, yet gives mediocre accommodation at best?
What again is the attraction of a vehicle that is objectively bad in every way, save for 'because I can' (which is fair enough)?
Edited by 900T-R on Wednesday 30th November 06:40
They fit in on US roads because everything around the car is scaled up accordingly, i.e. wide roads, enormous parking spaces, supersize hamburgers, etc.
They stick out like a sore thumb in the UK and for the wrong reasons in my opinion. I see a guy most days driving around in a Hummer H2 (even worse) on 22" wheels and I can't help thinking "knob"... where's that thread?
Your money is better spent on something smaller, better built, more economical and classier than this.
They stick out like a sore thumb in the UK and for the wrong reasons in my opinion. I see a guy most days driving around in a Hummer H2 (even worse) on 22" wheels and I can't help thinking "knob"... where's that thread?
Your money is better spent on something smaller, better built, more economical and classier than this.
I dunno perhaps it is just me but as soon as someone mentions that car x is classier than car y I would always go for car y given the choice (unless car y was something I detested). It is probably why I can't stand a lot of the premium brand cars because of the supposed 'classy' image attached to them.
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J4CKO said:
If you don't care what others think and like it, go for it. I think perhaps we worry too much what others think, we aren't here that long so don't waste time trying to impress or please anyone other than yourself as you cant please all the people all of the time, you may think you look the nuts in an Integrale, E30 M3 or some other PH icon but a lot of the public will just see an old car.
It is your car if you buy one, it may not be to my taste but who cares about my opinion, plus if nobody bought stuff like this, the rest of the PH arbiters of all that is tasteful wouldn't have something to object to and thus their own exquisite choices would be less noticeable.
Sure its nice enough to be in, a bit too big relative to our infrastructure but you would manage, if you dont like it you can always sell it !
Have you considered the Mazda MX5 as a possible alternative
ut no matter what others think image wise it's still a bad car with no redeeming features that just doesn't work at all in the UK. You're doing the Integrale, E30 M3 a diservice by using them as a comparison, non car lovers may not appreciate them but since when does that matter?It is your car if you buy one, it may not be to my taste but who cares about my opinion, plus if nobody bought stuff like this, the rest of the PH arbiters of all that is tasteful wouldn't have something to object to and thus their own exquisite choices would be less noticeable.
Sure its nice enough to be in, a bit too big relative to our infrastructure but you would manage, if you dont like it you can always sell it !
Have you considered the Mazda MX5 as a possible alternative
Edited by J4CKO on Tuesday 29th November 12:42
No redeeming features is a bit harsh, plenty of space, powerful, comfy and er, cant think of much else except perhaps rarity, I wouldn't even give one a second though as its bigger and dafter than the biggest and daftest euro posh off roaders but not as good and I dont want a Euro one either but acknowledge they are very good.
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