MINI white taillamps failed MOT

MINI white taillamps failed MOT

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Dogwatch

6,230 posts

223 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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The reflector law was brought in donkey's years ago in the hope that if you had to stop after dark with no rear lights (for whatever reason) an approaching vehicle would pick up the reflectors and go round you rather than into you.

Of course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.

Pistachio

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1,116 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Roop said:
Put a couple of discrete reflectors on either side on your number plate...?
Yep that will work as well.

Pistachio

Original Poster:

1,116 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Dogwatch said:
The reflector law was brought in donkey's years ago in the hope that if you had to stop after dark with no rear lights (for whatever reason) an approaching vehicle would pick up the reflectors and go round you rather than into you.

Of course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.
It does have reflectors in the tail lamps but just white not red, so it isn't invisible in gloom but yeah texter's wont see it hehehehe

jagracer

8,248 posts

237 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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you can get self adhesive reflectors, put them on for the test then remove them after if you don't like them and don't mind taking a chance on never being stopped by VOSA or BiB.

littleredrooster

5,538 posts

197 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Pistachio said:
It does have reflectors in the tail lamps but just white not red, so it isn't invisible in gloom but yeah texter's wont see it hehehehe
Which still makes it illegal, surely? Showing a white light to the rear...

ShampooEfficient

4,267 posts

212 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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littleredrooster said:
Pistachio said:
It does have reflectors in the tail lamps but just white not red, so it isn't invisible in gloom but yeah texter's wont see it hehehehe
Which still makes it illegal, surely? Showing a white light to the rear...
Agreed. http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/regul...

You must be able to get some sort of aesthetically pleasing self-adhesive reflectors. Try eBay.

And as said above, the fact it's passed before is a sign of lackadaisy on the part of the previous Mo~T tester, not the roadworthiness of the car.

sday12

5,053 posts

212 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Pistachio said:
Graebob said:
Seriously, OP?

The law is the law. MOT regs are MOT regs. Your car does not comply. Previous MOT passes prove nothing. All previous MOTs with those lights fitted without reflectors in the bumper proves merely that the MOT tester did not know his arse from his elbow.

Honestly.

They look st anyway.
Thank you for your lovely insight…most helpful
Anything else?
bye
He has got a point though.

LukeSi

5,753 posts

162 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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May I be the first to say those lights look awful.

TheEnd

15,370 posts

189 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Graebob beat you to it (see quote above)

Shotgun Micky

16 posts

150 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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I had clear rear lights fitted when i bought mine, as the dealer had to pay for them and for them to be fitted (long story)! he wasn't too happy about having to get it into the bodyshop for the reflectors to be fitted but they look ok and it had to be done for MOT compliance.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Frik said:
Theflyer said:
So it's just been fitted incorrectly then.
Or the previous owner removed them.

Either way it would appear that the dealer sold you a car that was not road legal. This should be interesting.
no not interesting at all. No proof of anything and an owners ignorance is not a defence.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

191 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Pistachio said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Pistachio said:
Yep this is being done, but why did the BMW dealer sell the car without it being road legal??
Because they traded the car in, valeted it, put it on their forecourt and sold it to you...

You can't blame a dealer for not spotting something so minor.
what and to carry on passing it on its MOT years after???
I think the car never had them as I remember the accessory brochure didn't have them on either (2001-2002)
No real beef to grind other than it is amazing that the mot passed for 7 years and suddenly it doesn't and now have to stick some reflectors on the rear
But it hasn't suddenly failed, it's always been wrong, it's never been spotted before. If a murdered was killing people for 10 years and never arrested, would they have not been guilty?

Engineer1

10,486 posts

210 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Pistachio said:
I am not going after BMW. Can I just say that right away.
I am just raising it as an item that might catch someone out whether you are a dealer or punter or even an MOT inspector.
I was amazed that it took 7 years to get a fail on this when the main authorised dealer weren't bothered
The main dealer may have had the attitude why bother having them stick the two reflectors on that fall off again the moment they leave only to be refixed either come the next MOT or if the police stop them.

hogg

38 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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i had to do this last week, there £5.99 at halfords
1 min. to fit and new ticket smile thank you very much smile

hogg

38 posts

199 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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i had to do this last week, there £5.99 at halfords
1 min. to fit and new ticket smile thank you very much smile

joe58

711 posts

152 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Similar to what you showed earlier I would too do it 599 style too. Just simply nestled in the diffuser or in your case lower 'grilles.'


va1o

16,032 posts

208 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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I don't understand why people are attacking the OP?

A car sold as Approved Used by a BMW main agent should meet the definition of 'road legal'. This clearly is not as it failed the MOT based on the fact its had the wrong rear light clusters fitted.

In my eyes the dealer should carry out the remedial work free of charge, i.e. fit the reflectors in the bumper that are designed to accompany those light clusters.

saladdodger

347 posts

167 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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doogz said:
The previous MOT tester wasn't doing his job properly then.

What are you hoping for here? Do you want someone to tell you to go and sue MINI for selling you a non-roadworthy car?

Either change the lights for standard ones, or fit the stupid reflectors that were supposed to be there in the first place.
This, seems so simple to me


littlebasher

3,782 posts

172 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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My suggestion is to buy these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Mini-rear-light-clus...

And stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

180 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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littlebasher said:
My suggestion is to buy these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Mini-rear-light-clus...

And stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!
+ 1 zillion squillion