MINI white taillamps failed MOT
Discussion
The reflector law was brought in donkey's years ago in the hope that if you had to stop after dark with no rear lights (for whatever reason) an approaching vehicle would pick up the reflectors and go round you rather than into you.
Of course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.
Of course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.
Dogwatch said:
The reflector law was brought in donkey's years ago in the hope that if you had to stop after dark with no rear lights (for whatever reason) an approaching vehicle would pick up the reflectors and go round you rather than into you.
Of course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.
It does have reflectors in the tail lamps but just white not red, so it isn't invisible in gloom but yeah texter's wont see it heheheheOf course that was in the days before texting-and-driving.
littleredrooster said:
Pistachio said:
It does have reflectors in the tail lamps but just white not red, so it isn't invisible in gloom but yeah texter's wont see it hehehehe
Which still makes it illegal, surely? Showing a white light to the rear...You must be able to get some sort of aesthetically pleasing self-adhesive reflectors. Try eBay.
And as said above, the fact it's passed before is a sign of lackadaisy on the part of the previous Mo~T tester, not the roadworthiness of the car.
Pistachio said:
Graebob said:
Seriously, OP?
The law is the law. MOT regs are MOT regs. Your car does not comply. Previous MOT passes prove nothing. All previous MOTs with those lights fitted without reflectors in the bumper proves merely that the MOT tester did not know his arse from his elbow.
Honestly.
They look st anyway.
Thank you for your lovely insight…most helpfulThe law is the law. MOT regs are MOT regs. Your car does not comply. Previous MOT passes prove nothing. All previous MOTs with those lights fitted without reflectors in the bumper proves merely that the MOT tester did not know his arse from his elbow.
Honestly.
They look st anyway.
Anything else?
bye
Frik said:
Theflyer said:
So it's just been fitted incorrectly then.
Or the previous owner removed them.Either way it would appear that the dealer sold you a car that was not road legal. This should be interesting.
Pistachio said:
Dr Interceptor said:
Pistachio said:
Yep this is being done, but why did the BMW dealer sell the car without it being road legal??
Because they traded the car in, valeted it, put it on their forecourt and sold it to you...You can't blame a dealer for not spotting something so minor.
I think the car never had them as I remember the accessory brochure didn't have them on either (2001-2002)
No real beef to grind other than it is amazing that the mot passed for 7 years and suddenly it doesn't and now have to stick some reflectors on the rear
Pistachio said:
I am not going after BMW. Can I just say that right away.
I am just raising it as an item that might catch someone out whether you are a dealer or punter or even an MOT inspector.
I was amazed that it took 7 years to get a fail on this when the main authorised dealer weren't bothered
The main dealer may have had the attitude why bother having them stick the two reflectors on that fall off again the moment they leave only to be refixed either come the next MOT or if the police stop them.I am just raising it as an item that might catch someone out whether you are a dealer or punter or even an MOT inspector.
I was amazed that it took 7 years to get a fail on this when the main authorised dealer weren't bothered
I don't understand why people are attacking the OP?
A car sold as Approved Used by a BMW main agent should meet the definition of 'road legal'. This clearly is not as it failed the MOT based on the fact its had the wrong rear light clusters fitted.
In my eyes the dealer should carry out the remedial work free of charge, i.e. fit the reflectors in the bumper that are designed to accompany those light clusters.
A car sold as Approved Used by a BMW main agent should meet the definition of 'road legal'. This clearly is not as it failed the MOT based on the fact its had the wrong rear light clusters fitted.
In my eyes the dealer should carry out the remedial work free of charge, i.e. fit the reflectors in the bumper that are designed to accompany those light clusters.
doogz said:
The previous MOT tester wasn't doing his job properly then.
What are you hoping for here? Do you want someone to tell you to go and sue MINI for selling you a non-roadworthy car?
Either change the lights for standard ones, or fit the stupid reflectors that were supposed to be there in the first place.
This, seems so simple to meWhat are you hoping for here? Do you want someone to tell you to go and sue MINI for selling you a non-roadworthy car?
Either change the lights for standard ones, or fit the stupid reflectors that were supposed to be there in the first place.
My suggestion is to buy these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Mini-rear-light-clus...
And stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!
And stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!
littlebasher said:
My suggestion is to buy these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Mini-rear-light-clus...
And stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!
+ 1 zillion squillionAnd stick those gash clear ones where they belong, in the bin!
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