What interesting £10k diesel estate?

What interesting £10k diesel estate?

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white_goodman

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4,042 posts

192 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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As my wife and I are soon to become three, I'm still pondering on a suitable replacement for my 2004 Impreza WRX Estate. My wife will be the main driver, so we want something that's a bit lighter to drive, more comfort-orientated, more economical (40mpg+) and has a bigger boot. A few more toys like parking sensors, leather, heated seats, CD changer and automatic would also be desirable. However, although I'm sure they're great cars, the thought of a 4-pot Passat/Mondeo diesel estate bores me! I could probably stretch to £10k (I wouldn't have thought my Impreza was worth more than about £4k). For the models that I have considered so far, this would seem to get me a 3 year old car with about 70k. My Impreza has only done 72k, so this doesn't seem like amazing value to me but I guess diesel engines last longer? Things like DPF and dual mass flywheel failures do concern me though.

A BMW 330d/530d Touring or Mercedes estate would seem like a good choice but as we live on top of a steep hill, these types of car were grounded for about a week last winter whereas, my Subaru and my wife's FWD Fiat had no such problems. I would prefer 4WD or FWD for this reason but don't want the compromises that come with a proper 4x4.

These are the cars that I am currently considering:
Alfa Romeo 159 2.4 JTD Sportwagon (the Ti looks fantastic but not sure about the ride on those 19" wheels)
Subaru Legacy diesel estate (the boxer engine and 4WD make it interesting and the pre-facelift model is quite handsome)
Volvo V50 D5 (nice looking car and available with auto)
Volvo V70 D5 (as above but with more space - it would have to be the latest model)

Any thoughts on the cars above (as I know very little about any of them) or any other suggestions would be gratefully received.


andy-xr

13,204 posts

205 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Congratulations smile

I keep looking at the Volvo as a motorway cruiser, supposedly great for comfort and toys. I'm not sure I'd have a diesel unless there was a good reason to go for it, repair bills on cars approaching 3 figure mileages based on past experiences haven't been good. They were Fords mainly though

stinkysteve

732 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Hi,

I went from a 2007 impreza WRX estate into an alfa 159 ti 2.4 diesel estate.

After 2 years, i just swapped the alfa for new 159 ti estate but with the 1750 petrol.

Firstly, you'll really struggle to get 40mpg with the 2.4jtdm. I bought a 159 saloon lusso 1.9jtdm for a manager and over 2 years he's struggled to get 40mpg in that! Neither of us did massive motorway miles, but 40mpg in mixed driving is impossible in the 2.4, and the absolute 'driving like miss Daisy' limit for the 1.9.

Don't worry about the ride on the 19's. Sure it's better on the 17's fitted to Lussos but they don't look half as good and if you buy an 159 it's because of the way it looks!

Be aware of the following though on the Ti's with 19's: They run out front tyres in 10k miles due to the weight and geometry. And with that weight and fat tyres FWD won't really help much in the snow.

I'd say £10k would get you a lovely V50 which will do the things you want better - (comfort/size/mpg)

It really is head or heart with that choice....

Or Octavia VRS diesel?

good luck.

white_goodman

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4,042 posts

192 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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Thanks guys. Some really good advice there on Alfas and Volvos. I see your point on do we really need diesel but I'm thinking what are resale values going to be like on petrol estates (unless it's something really specialised like an RS Audi)?

stinkysteve

732 posts

198 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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http://pistonheads.com/sales/3429997.htm

Or petrol if you prefer. Quick and reliable, what's not to like.

(Sorry if they're a bit 4-pot)

muppets_mate

771 posts

217 months

Tuesday 29th November 2011
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white_goodman said:
A BMW 330d/530d Touring or Mercedes estate would seem like a good choice but as we live on top of a steep hill, these types of car were grounded for about a week last winter whereas, my Subaru and my wife's FWD Fiat had no such problems. I would prefer 4WD or FWD for this reason but don't want the compromises that come with a proper 4x4.
Would a set of good winter tyres make the BMWs/Mercedes viable options?


white_goodman

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4,042 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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muppets_mate said:
Would a set of good winter tyres make the BMWs/Mercedes viable options?
I guess so. I haven't really experienced a car with winter tyres and I haven't really got space to store 2 sets of wheels and tyres. Not sure how comfortable my wife would be with RWD handling characteristics!

Vladimir

6,917 posts

159 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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white_goodman said:
I guess so. I haven't really experienced a car with winter tyres and I haven't really got space to store 2 sets of wheels and tyres. Not sure how comfortable my wife would be with RWD handling characteristics!
We live at the top of a very steep (1 in 3) 120 yard long driveway and run a BM 335d. When it snows (not often in Cornwall) I just leave it on the driveway and use our Defender. BMs are fundamentally cr4p in the snow. Winter tyres help a lot but I'd still not take the risk. They are great everywhere else but snow is a real achilles heel, especially in colder areas.

kentmotorcompany

2,471 posts

211 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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Audi Quattro?

A4 Avant, A6 Avant, Allroad



My wife has a Audi A4 3.0 TDI Avant S Line Auto. 55 Plate about 70,000 miles, I guess its worth roughly your £10k budget.

I have an 04 2.5 TDI Allroad (based on A6) for sale at the moment 92,000 miles for £8k.


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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What about a Legacy 2.0D or A Mazda 6 Sport 2.2d

white_goodman

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4,042 posts

192 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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MonkeyMatt said:
What about a Legacy 2.0D or A Mazda 6 Sport 2.2d
A Legacy diesel was one of the cars I was thinking about initially.

RobM77

35,349 posts

235 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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I'd think about getting the BMW or Merc and some winter tyres. My personal opinion is that RWD is well worth it for the high proportion of journeys you make without snow on the roads. That's just my thoughts though - get a test drive and see what you think driving

ALawson

7,816 posts

252 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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A4 Avant 4wd, does it only use the 4wd when required?

Matt UK

17,735 posts

201 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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I'm seriously considering a Volvo V70 D5 SE for 25k/yr work and family duties.

The other option is a Saab 9-5. Not my cup of tea and I've not enjoyed the Saabs I've borrowed in the past, but I could have just been unlucky.

Bitzer

4,244 posts

169 months

Wednesday 30th November 2011
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ALawson said:
A4 Avant 4wd, does it only use the 4wd when required?
Permanent 4 wheel drive.

As opposed to the haldex system on the A3/S3/R32/Octavia/4motion etc, which is 4wd 'on demand'.