RE: PH fleet update: Ford Puma
Discussion
hora said:
Firstly I've owned mine longer than Riggers 
Negatives?
No cup holders
No brakes
Cold gearshift in the morning
s
t on motorways
When you open the boot when its been raining, only open it circa 10inches first for 10secs- no water goes into the boot then.
You can remove the rear swab turning it into a miniVan
When it loses grip its progressive/not unpredictable even on budget tyres
Mines due its MOT next week and the ABS needs sorting. If its just that it stays. If not....
The puma was meant to be a stopgap
I never need to write another fleet update now, hora! Negatives?
No cup holders
No brakes
Cold gearshift in the morning
s
t on motorwaysWhen you open the boot when its been raining, only open it circa 10inches first for 10secs- no water goes into the boot then.
You can remove the rear swab turning it into a miniVan
When it loses grip its progressive/not unpredictable even on budget tyres
Mines due its MOT next week and the ABS needs sorting. If its just that it stays. If not....
The puma was meant to be a stopgap
hora said:
No cup holders
Easy fix, If your Puma has the sunglasses tray behind the handbrake, wedge one of those cardboard cup carriers from Burger King in it, sorted.
Cold gearshift in the morning
I stick a sunglasses bag over it when its bloody cold, a sock over the gearknob also works but people get a bit wierded out if you drive around with a lonely sock near the drivers seat.
Mines due its MOT next week and the ABS needs sorting. If its just that it stays. If not....
I had this problem after driving through a muddy puddle, fixed it by raising the front end on jacks, engage second to get the fronts spinning and spray the hubs (where the abs sensor is) with a pressure washer.
The puma was meant to be a stopgap
Same here Hora, 2 years and a few hundred pounds later and its still here
A cheap car deserves cheap fixes.Easy fix, If your Puma has the sunglasses tray behind the handbrake, wedge one of those cardboard cup carriers from Burger King in it, sorted.
Cold gearshift in the morning
I stick a sunglasses bag over it when its bloody cold, a sock over the gearknob also works but people get a bit wierded out if you drive around with a lonely sock near the drivers seat.
Mines due its MOT next week and the ABS needs sorting. If its just that it stays. If not....
I had this problem after driving through a muddy puddle, fixed it by raising the front end on jacks, engage second to get the fronts spinning and spray the hubs (where the abs sensor is) with a pressure washer.
The puma was meant to be a stopgap
Same here Hora, 2 years and a few hundred pounds later and its still here
LONG LIVE THE SHED...
The abs sensor is in the wheel hub, and a bit of dirt or a stone stuck in it will set the dash lights off. It always happens in rainy or snowy conditions.
I'm a bit thick and don't get the Ferris Bueler reference (never seen the film) but the way I figured is if the wheels are spinning the chances of whatever is stuck in there being thrown out rather just being pushed further in are more likely.
I am no mechanic and a bit of a 'have a go harry' but it worked for me. I literally just put axle stands under the front jacking point (just behind the front wheels) so the wheels could spin freely off the ground and went to work with the pressure washer.
ETA: I didn't remove the wheels, and try and spray the hub from the inside.
I'm a bit thick and don't get the Ferris Bueler reference (never seen the film) but the way I figured is if the wheels are spinning the chances of whatever is stuck in there being thrown out rather just being pushed further in are more likely.
I am no mechanic and a bit of a 'have a go harry' but it worked for me. I literally just put axle stands under the front jacking point (just behind the front wheels) so the wheels could spin freely off the ground and went to work with the pressure washer.
ETA: I didn't remove the wheels, and try and spray the hub from the inside.
Edited by Potto on Wednesday 1st February 17:03
hora said:
Would this help? Could it be the ABS ring mucked up giving a wrong message?
The ABS sensor on my Volvo seemed linked to the traction control one, last winter when full of iced up road slush and snow the traction control wouldn't let me accelerate properly cutting in constantly and the ABS warning light was on. Once everything was warmed up and the mess had melted away the light stayed off and the car worked as normal.
So built up muck 'could' sort the problem cheaply. A decent mechanic would spot this anyway.
hora said:
Update. My Pumas going to be weighed in. Circa £500 to get it through the MOT
I believe the phrase is: 'Nooooooooooo!!!!' Bad times. What will the scrappie give you?
In more cheery Puma-related news, ours has just had new tyres fitted, though I have discovered the the left nearside wheel is shaped more like an egg than a wheel... update on that soon...
Sounds like someone fancies your car and knows the work can be done himself in an hour - shame on him! I presume he's quoting for a Ford ABS sensor at £100+ rather than a pattern part for less than half that?
I've only done the front ABS sensors but it's easy enough, wheel off, brake disc off - the sensor attaches to the hub with a single bolt that will be rusty and keen to shear it's head off if not careful. Once you remove the nut the sensor should just pull out, it's unlikely it will though so taking the disc off allows you access from both sides of the hub to allow you to knock it out.
If you look at the part you can get an idea of what's involved, in theory it could be done with the wheel left on but for ease of access / sanity it's better to approach it with the expectation of doing more. One bolt and an electrical connector, it should only take seconds, curse you corrosion and large hands!
The rear ones sit in the drum and are prone to getting caked up so a good clean might sort the issue out, best to test them all first to identify where the problem lies, clean if necessary and replace if this doesn't help.
Stolen from the Puma forum a while ago and kept for reference:
1. Remove Wheel
2. Remove Inner Arch Lining
3. Unplug ABS Sensor
4. Set Multimeter to Ohms
5. Set Range so meter reads between 1000 and 1200 Ohms
6. Test the sensor plug LEADING to the wheel hub by going across the 2 pins
7. A good sensor should read between the values with an average of 1.1K Ohm
8. Anything else can point to coils breaking down
9. Remember to wiggle the sensor lead when testing to check the internal coils
10. Repeat if necessary on other side.
Hopefully getting the rear brakes done will have a knock-on effect on the ABS but if not fingers crossed someone without a vested interest in taking the car from you might be able to save you money and let you keep enjoying the Puma.
That doesn't sound like £500 to me.
Mine's lost the heat shield under the mid section of the exhaust and punctured a tyre this week. I also have a slightly sticky throttle which is either the cable of the throttle body. I'll take it apart next week to find out.
Oh it also seems impossible to get much more than 30mpg but that is due to my leaden right boot.
Is this a thread for those frustrated boy racers having an early mid life crisis?
Mine's lost the heat shield under the mid section of the exhaust and punctured a tyre this week. I also have a slightly sticky throttle which is either the cable of the throttle body. I'll take it apart next week to find out.
Oh it also seems impossible to get much more than 30mpg but that is due to my leaden right boot.
Is this a thread for those frustrated boy racers having an early mid life crisis?
hora said:
With the wheel off I can see where the black-ended part fits behind the wheel however the other part seems to disapear up into the ether?
Which part normally breaks off? I assume its the black-ended side?
The sensor casing that pushes into the hub seems to become brittle with age - you might be luckier than me though, it could just pop out.Which part normally breaks off? I assume its the black-ended side?
I'm trying to remember doing the job now and thinking about it I might have opened up the arch liner a little at one side for access - I definitely didn't remove it completely though.
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