RE: Supra and MR2 could return, says Toyota

[JohnG1]

DanDC5 said:

I like Toyota's new MD, he's proving that he is the petrol head he claims to be.

I just hope he becomes close enough friends with Ulrich Bez to decide to invest a massive chunk of money into Aston Martin...

[Frimley111R]

Marf said:

New MR2 at sub 25k, yes please!

Lol! Good luck with that!

[Zircon]

Melvin Udall said:

http://www.750mc.co.uk/RaceResults-mr2.php

Interesting reading!

MK2 MR2 consistently quicker than the Mk3 at successive race meetings.

Sorts that theory out.......

As for the MR2 / Supra renaissance - I will believe that when I see it. I think the massively disappointing (looking) '86 is the only sports model we will see.

[kambites]

Zircon said:

Interesting reading!

MK2 MR2 consistently quicker than the Mk3 at successive race meetings.

Sorts that theory out.......

What theory? I don't think anyone ever claimed that the mk3 was a faster car.

[Marf]

Frimley111R said:

Marf said:

New MR2 at sub 25k, yes please!

Lol! Good luck with that!

LOL!

[kambites]

I think sub-25k is probably realistic as long as they get the design right and don't go for silly power. Probably not much sub-25k, though.

[PaulMoor]

Ed said:

Stop press! Toyota boss says Prius 'isn't a car'

No, it's a greenwashing exercise.

[Kawasicki]

So the '86 has a 200bhp boxer4 and low grip/neutral handling at 28k pounds....give the Supra a 300bhp boxer6 and similar handling for 35k pounds. Aim to give the mr2 a basic 150bhp i4 for 16k pounds.

[Marf]

What was the list price on the Mk3 MR2? Pretty sure it was comfortably sub 25k.

[kambites]

Kawasicki said:

So the '86 has a 200bhp boxer4 and low grip/neutral handling at 28k pounds....give the Supra a 300bhp boxer6 and similar handling for 35k pounds. Aim to give the mr2 a basic 150bhp i4 for 16k pounds.

16k? You can only just buy an Auris for that. My guess would be something like 23k as a starting point.

[kambites]

Marf said:

What was the list price on the Mk3 MR2? Pretty sure it was comfortably sub 25k.

They started at about 18k, I think, but the mk3 was released 11 years ago! There's been a fair bit of inflation since then - if we assume 3% inflation PA, that would be almost exactly 25k today.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 6th December 09:42

[willfinch36]

My MR2 Turbo!

[Kobushi ste]

My mr2 at rockingham many years ago

[Kawasicki]

kambites said:

Kawasicki said:

So the '86 has a 200bhp boxer4 and low grip/neutral handling at 28k pounds....give the Supra a 300bhp boxer6 and similar handling for 35k pounds. Aim to give the mr2 a basic 150bhp i4 for 16k pounds.

16k? You can only just buy an Auris for that. My guess would be something like 23k as a starting point.

It is ambitious, but it should be as basic as a low spec Yaris and shouldn't cost more than 50% more.

[kambites]

Kawasicki said:

It is ambitious, but it should be as basic as a low spec Yaris and shouldn't cost more than 50% more.

Ambitious isn't the word I'd use - there is no way that Toyota could produce a new MR2 for under 20k and still make a profit on it.

[Zircon]

kambites said:

What theory? I don't think anyone ever claimed that the mk3 was a faster car.

Have a read back through the comments - 'MK3 is faster than the MK2 where it needs to be'. Well if it loses in a race then it obviously isn't fast enough where it needs to be.....

[kambites]

Zircon said:

Have a read back through the comments - 'MK3 is faster than the MK2 where it needs to be'. Well if it loses in a race then it obviously isn't fast enough where it needs to be.....

Oh sorry, I missed that.

It doesn't change the fact that the mk3 is a vastly better car though, IMO.

[Melvin Udall]

kambites said:

Oh sorry, I missed that.

It doesn't change the fact that the mk3 is a vastly better car though, IMO.

Clearly not better enough to win it's own championship!

[randomcash]

MR2 MKI Supercharged - Performance 7/10, Style = 7/10, Go Kart for adults!



MR2 MKII Turbo - Performance 9/10, Style 9/10, God-like - closest you'll get to a supercar for under £30k (new)



MR2 MKIII (any model) - Performance 1/10, Style 1/10, Lost the plot entirely, no point having good handling if you're accelerating like a turtle in a tar pit - feeble pile of poo!

Toyota, please please please do an updated MKII Turbo!!! When a car looks this good, they don't even need to update the chassis, or the interior, or the engine, or anything! Love that car!

[kambites]

Melvin Udall said:

kambites said:

Oh sorry, I missed that.

It doesn't change the fact that the mk3 is a vastly better car though, IMO.

Clearly not better enough to win it's own championship!

I suppose that was meant to be a joke, but I'm afraid I don't understand it. What has a racing series got to do with which is the better road car?