RE: The end of the Mitsubishi Evo
Discussion
otolith said:
EU corporate average fleet CO2 limits start kick in from 2012, ramping up over the next three years. I'm not at all surprised the cull has started - all those people who think Toyota/Subaru are on the wrong lines with the modestly powered and relatively frugal GT86/BRZ will soon see the logic of that decision once the dinosaurs are all extinct.
I don't like it, I've never been offered the option to vote against it, but that's the way it is..
I'm rather hoping the EU implodes up its own arse leaving the UK to swim away from it and forge our own more sensible course.I don't like it, I've never been offered the option to vote against it, but that's the way it is..
Best Evo moment was at Rally Germany, one of the works cars pulled out of the pit area (Sola I think) he waved at us and absolutely gunned it up the road, car spitting flames as it went, never seen anything accelerate that quickly in sh*tty conditions in my life. I had an Impreza, loved them, still do but I will scratch the Evo itch at some point, would love a VI.
Wah said:
ndj said:
.....and when you try to get your hidden gem serviced you have the pleasure of the Mitsubishi dealer network (thunder plays in the background)!
The only dealer in my county, namely Fife Mitsubishi, refused to service my car, "because I didn't buy it there"........
Go figure!
I hope you told Mitsubishi UK Customer Services?The only dealer in my county, namely Fife Mitsubishi, refused to service my car, "because I didn't buy it there"........
Go figure!
I'm sure that lady who was on "Undercover Boss" would love to hear your complaint!
They investigated and came back with "our independent franchisees can basically do whatever they want, but we have convinced them to service your car".
Thanks, but no thanks. The dealer principal was utterly belligerent in earlier discussions so I have no intension of engaging a reluctant dealer who'd been arm twisted into handling my vehicle.
The only reason I still have the Outlander is no one is prepared to pay more than buttons for it. Trade don't like mitsubishi's!
Needless to say I didn't bother with the Evo and bought an M5 instead!
Clowns!
paranoid airbag said:
would a single country of the uk's size even have the economic muscle to deal with global manufacturers like that? Does anyone outside of japan produce kei cars?
The EU isn't really using economic muscle, it's simply saying that if you sell too many high CO2 cars in the EU you will be punitively fined - it doesn't necessarily force the development of specific cars for that environment, it just stops them selling anything juicy. The UK could do the same, but at least we would have more chance of telling the government to can it.This is a very sad but necessary venture, which is a huge shame. With virtually every manufacturer going down the electric/hybrid/whatever route I fear we will all have to adapt to entirely different performance and the days of un-interrupted, mechanical driving are behind those of us who can't afford to pay the premiums that naturally-aspirated, manual cars will surely command.
Well done to Mitsubishi for lasting this long I guess, the 8MR I had up until 18 months ago was proper, proper fun.
Well done to Mitsubishi for lasting this long I guess, the 8MR I had up until 18 months ago was proper, proper fun.
richard300 said:
For me personally, the start of the Mitsubishi EVO was the Evolution V and it finished with the Evolution VI. everything before was underwhelming and everything after was underwhelming and overweight.
All my own opinion of course
The same day I saw a V on the road for the 1st time was the same day I 1st read about the VI in a magazineAll my own opinion of course
Took a test drive in a VI not long after. Amazing
Didnt mind the VII RS, but like you the rest I found underwhelming and/or overweight
Sad day in history.
I remember when I was a few years younger, I got given a passenger ride in the then-new Evo FQ-400, the first one.
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
I remember when I was a few years younger, I got given a passenger ride in the then-new Evo FQ-400, the first one.
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
sc4589 said:
Sad day in history.
I remember when I was a few years younger, I got given a passenger ride in the then-new Evo FQ-400, the first one.
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
I'm assuming you mean you went in a gunmetal grey one when you had a passenger ride in the very first Evo VIII FQ400? As that is #007I remember when I was a few years younger, I got given a passenger ride in the then-new Evo FQ-400, the first one.
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
sc4589 said:
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
I love cars like that, the best example I've got was a blast in a 996 Turbo S. The bloke driving was cool as a cucumber, being used to the ferocious pace of the car, while I sat there, wide eyed going "f
k, st, fking hell, fk this is bloody quik, fk, holy st!" and laughing uncontrollably!Sadly, for young men like me, it seems we will only be able to tell our grandchildren what cars used to be like, and they will never get to experience things like this for themselves. The only way I can see it happening is if someone manages to synthesize a petrol substitute that costs next to nothing to make and burns just like petrol without any harmful emissions (so the bean-eating hippies of the future don't put the kaibosh on it) and I can't see that happening. When our children drive around in silent Jetson-style bubble cars, something like an Evo, with it's incredible acceleration, deafening noise and gunfire cracks and bangs on "gear changes" will be incomprehensible to them.
*Kosta* said:
I'm assuming you mean you went in a gunmetal grey one when you had a passenger ride in the very first Evo VIII FQ400? As that is #007
No. I meant the first FQ400, as in the first of its kind. There were two more after that, as I recall..? Pretty sure the eighth was the first one!Mastodon2 said:
sc4589 said:
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
I love cars like that, the best example I've got was a blast in a 996 Turbo S. The bloke driving was cool as a cucumber, being used to the ferocious pace of the car, while I sat there, wide eyed going "fk, st, fking hell, fk this is bloody quik, fk, holy st!" and laughing uncontrollably!Sadly, for young men like me, it seems we will only be able to tell our grandchildren what cars used to be like, and they will never get to experience things like this for themselves. The only way I can see it happening is if someone manages to synthesize a petrol substitute that costs next to nothing to make and burns just like petrol without any harmful emissions (so the bean-eating hippies of the future don't put the kaibosh on it) and I can't see that happening. When our children drive around in silent Jetson-style bubble cars, something like an Evo, with it's incredible acceleration, deafening noise and gunfire cracks and bangs on "gear changes" will be incomprehensible to them.
it's a worrying time, it really is. I always promised myself an RS6, the V8 one... but now it's looking like I'd better get to a forecourt and sample one now, before I can own one! Wish I'd been born 10-15 years earlier! I have to say that drive, despite being fairly short and in an unremarkable area (Reading... wooo... 
) sticks with me. I've always had a soft spot for Evos, and would always choose one over an Impreza.
sc4589 said:
*Kosta* said:
I'm assuming you mean you went in a gunmetal grey one when you had a passenger ride in the very first Evo VIII FQ400? As that is #007
No. I meant the first FQ400, as in the first of its kind. There were two more after that, as I recall..? Pretty sure the eighth was the first one!Mastodon2 said:
sc4589 said:
I remember it seemed fairly unremarkable right up until the moment the dealer dropped two gears and I nearly swallowed my tongue. It was savagely, crushingly, invigoratingly fast. There's a video on a CD somewhere that I took of it- raucous laughter and expletives from both parties.
I love cars like that, the best example I've got was a blast in a 996 Turbo S. The bloke driving was cool as a cucumber, being used to the ferocious pace of the car, while I sat there, wide eyed going "fk, st, fking hell, fk this is bloody quik, fk, holy st!" and laughing uncontrollably!Sadly, for young men like me, it seems we will only be able to tell our grandchildren what cars used to be like, and they will never get to experience things like this for themselves. The only way I can see it happening is if someone manages to synthesize a petrol substitute that costs next to nothing to make and burns just like petrol without any harmful emissions (so the bean-eating hippies of the future don't put the kaibosh on it) and I can't see that happening. When our children drive around in silent Jetson-style bubble cars, something like an Evo, with it's incredible acceleration, deafening noise and gunfire cracks and bangs on "gear changes" will be incomprehensible to them.
it's a worrying time, it really is. I always promised myself an RS6, the V8 one... but now it's looking like I'd better get to a forecourt and sample one now, before I can own one! Wish I'd been born 10-15 years earlier! I have to say that drive, despite being fairly short and in an unremarkable area (Reading... wooo... ) sticks with me. I've always had a soft spot for Evos, and would always choose one over an Impreza.There have only been 2. The VIII FQ400 and more recently, the X FQ400.
MartinF said:
This is a very sad but necessary venture, which is a huge shame. With virtually every manufacturer going down the electric/hybrid/whatever route I fear we will all have to adapt to entirely different performance and the days of un-interrupted, mechanical driving are behind those of us who can't afford to pay the premiums that naturally-aspirated, manual cars will surely command.
Well done to Mitsubishi for lasting this long I guess, the 8MR I had up until 18 months ago was proper, proper fun.
lol@ calling an Evo un-interrupted, mechanical driving. Pull the computers out and see if it drives the same.Well done to Mitsubishi for lasting this long I guess, the 8MR I had up until 18 months ago was proper, proper fun.
As for hybrids, I think they could work perfectly with a car like this, using the electric motor as a kind of anti lag. eg more power from the motor while the turbo is spooling up.
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