What's the logic behind putting a woman on your insurance?

What's the logic behind putting a woman on your insurance?

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Kermit power

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28,691 posts

214 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I'm 41, married with kids, clean licence, no accidents etc, etc....

I am told my car insurance would be cheaper if I insured my wife to drive my cars. Only problem with this is that she can no longer drive due to eyesight issues.

My driving would not change if my wife's eyes weren't buggered, so why is my insurance higher because I can't add her to the policy?

marshalla

15,902 posts

202 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Kermit power said:
My driving would not change if my wife's eyes weren't buggered, so why is my insurance higher because I can't add her to the policy?
Statistics, not logic.

randlemarcus

13,528 posts

232 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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So stick your mother, sister, or next door neighbour on the insurance. There is no requirement for them to ever actually drive.

Alfa numeric

3,027 posts

180 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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If there's a woman on your policy you're statistically less likely to have a prang. My ex wife was on my policy for several years after our divorce as it lowered my premium by something like £70.

Just look at it as a way to lower your premium by using the system.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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A convenient lie is a bit like this.

Your premium on the car would be £1000.
You wife would be £500.
So to ensure you both it's £750.
Which is the average of the two risks.

Ladies are generally considered to be lower risk drivers.

Meoricin

2,880 posts

170 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Of course, the effect it has will diminish as more people do it, but that'll take a few years at least (hopefully!)

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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It will diminish in three week's time (I think), when insurance companies are no longer allowed to take gender into account.

Gusto

606 posts

234 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Snowboy said:
A convenient lie is a bit like this.

Your premium on the car would be £1000.
You wife would be £500.
So to ensure you both it's £750.
Which is the average of the two risks.

Ladies are generally considered to be lower risk drivers.
Nonsense. If this is the case, why doesn't adding me to my wife's car policy increase her premium?

Meoricin

2,880 posts

170 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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kambites said:
It will diminish in three week's time (I think), when insurance companies are no longer allowed to take gender into account.
That'll only apply for the male/female difference in risk, though - the adding of grandparents will still work (reducing the risk by having an older driver).

nerfherder

250 posts

204 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Alfa numeric said:
If there's a woman on your policy you're statistically less likely to have a prang. My ex wife was on my policy for several years after our divorce as it lowered my premium by something like £70.

Just look at it as a way to lower your premium by using the system.
Exactly the same here. Saved me about 10%.

RenesisEvo

3,615 posts

220 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I wish I understood the logic. Each time that my policy comes up for renewal, I get quotes with and without my other half on the policy. Every year without fail it's been cheaper (by at least £100) with her added, even though she has a fault claim and I don't. How does that make her less of a risk?

Kambites makes a good point - it may be different next time, although all being well I should have access to lower premiums anyway so I may not 'need' to include her on the policy.

Snowboy

8,028 posts

152 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Gusto said:
Snowboy said:
A convenient lie is a bit like this.

Your premium on the car would be £1000.
You wife would be £500.
So to ensure you both it's £750.
Which is the average of the two risks.

Ladies are generally considered to be lower risk drivers.
Nonsense. If this is the case, why doesn't adding me to my wife's car policy increase her premium?
It was a very simplified example.
In some cases adding a chap onto the wifes insurance does increase her premium.

If it doesn't in your case then it's probably to do with the many other factors that insurance companies take into account.
Perhaps you and your wife are considered equal risks.

Perhaps you could post your opinion or knowledge rather than just rubbishing mine.

warch

2,941 posts

155 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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I drive much more carefully with my girlfriend in the car, she bks me if I overtake anyone etc

illmonkey

18,215 posts

199 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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kambites said:
It will diminish in three week's time (I think), when insurance companies are no longer allowed to take gender into account.
Let me guess, the price for blokes doesn't go down, rather the price for the ladies goes up. So everyone pretty much loses out.

Gusto

606 posts

234 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Snowboy said:
It was a very simplified example.
In some cases adding a chap onto the wifes insurance does increase her premium.

If it doesn't in your case then it's probably to do with the many other factors that insurance companies take into account.
Perhaps you and your wife are considered equal risks.

Perhaps you could post your opinion or knowledge rather than just rubbishing mine.
Fair enough. I have never experienced this.

U T

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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kambites said:
It will diminish in three week's time (I think), when insurance companies are no longer allowed to take gender into account.
A year and 3 weeks. End of December 2012 the rules change.

U T

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Gusto said:
Snowboy said:
A convenient lie is a bit like this.

Your premium on the car would be £1000.
You wife would be £500.
So to ensure you both it's £750.
Which is the average of the two risks.

Ladies are generally considered to be lower risk drivers.
Nonsense. If this is the case, why doesn't adding me to my wife's car policy increase her premium?
Errr..it does. With many insurers. (not all). Female owner only driving is often cheaper than female plus spouse. Although being able to share the driving with someone else is seem as a positive thing. Less chance of a prang on a long journey. So that goes in your favour either way.

tim-b

1,279 posts

211 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Me: 10yrs driving on full UK licence, no points, no claims, no convictions

OH: Provisional licence

So naturally putting her on my policy > premium goes down!

Parking in a locked garage? > premium goes up!

I think this shows pretty clearly that statistics are useless without interpretation...

I'm assuming the garage thing is because most houses/flats on my street had garages, meaning less cars on the street > less claims from there. Whereas a few break-ins to garages where the more expensive vehicles are kept may have led to several high-cost claims, bumping up the average for garaged cars.

U T

43,412 posts

151 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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Most car theft these days is breaking into house to get keys. Car kept on the road, thief has no idea what house to break into. Car on the drive or on drive waiting to be put in garage, question answered.

So in some areas and for some cars, driveway or garage is more expensive than road.


nammynake

2,590 posts

174 months

Friday 9th December 2011
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tim-b said:
Me: 10yrs driving on full UK licence, no points, no claims, no convictions

OH: Provisional licence

So naturally putting her on my policy > premium goes down!

Parking in a locked garage? > premium goes up!

I think this shows pretty clearly that statistics are useless without interpretation...

I'm assuming the garage thing is because most houses/flats on my street had garages, meaning less cars on the street > less claims from there. Whereas a few break-ins to garages where the more expensive vehicles are kept may have led to several high-cost claims, bumping up the average for garaged cars.
I once heard that quite a few claims are made by drivers scuffing their own car getting into their garage, hence premiums reflect that. No idea if it's true.