RE: Lotus goes hybrid

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Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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ZesPak said:
But, you know, it saves them money!
Once they have done 600 000 miles, replaced the batteries twice, it's all free miles from there!
That's right, but with every new technology, we need early adopters to take the hit!

the ronin

1,056 posts

212 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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biggrin And finally we had to ask him about the Lotus partnership with Swizz Beatz. Sorry, but we just don’t get it…. “It’s because it’s not meant for this part of the world, it’s meant for the US,” Bahar said unapologetically. “What our tie-up with him has done in three to four months is incredible. Our products are in many music videos, we have designed five really, really very good looking chrome-coloured cars and we’ve sold five of them for a silly price, and all through him. It’s a different world.” biggrin

I laughed when I read this, the Swizzle Stick GTE isn't even road legal here in the US and will never be . So Lotus have painted 5 cars for the blingsters to use in videos. What a joke.

No one in the US wants the crap this BS artist is sellin.... Bye Bye Lotus.spin

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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I'm liking everything about Lotus right now. I also like the fact that I could buy a (probably get a great deal too) Lotus Exige next year and not have to worry about a model replacement until 2015.

I think Lotus should use 'GTO' for their GT3 beater. Ferrari won't mind. coffee

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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the ronin said:
No one in the US wants the crap this BS artist is sellin.... Bye Bye Lotus.spin
And you speak for every potential buyer? Pathetic.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Hellbound said:
ZesPak said:
But, you know, it saves them money!
Once they have done 600 000 miles, replaced the batteries twice, it's all free miles from there!
That's right, but with every new technology, we need early adopters to take the hit!
Agreed.

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cookie1600

2,126 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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“There is one powertrain, with two configurations. One is hybrid and the sporting variants are non-hybrid.

Sporting variants??? I thought all Lotus cars were supposed to be 'sports' variants? Is this leading to an SUV or something as well now?

Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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the ronin said:
I laughed when I read this, the Swizzle Stick GTE isn't even road legal here in the US and will never be . So Lotus have painted 5 cars for the blingsters to use in videos. What a joke.
Why isn't it legal?



Frimley111R

15,677 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Hellbound said:
the ronin said:
No one in the US wants the crap this BS artist is sellin.... Bye Bye Lotus.spin
And you speak for every potential buyer? Pathetic.
Woah! Don't get dragged in! Ronin loves a good arguement smile

ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Hellbound said:
I think Lotus should use 'GTO' for their GT3 beater. Ferrari won't mind. coffee
Being British they should use GTH.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Frimley111R said:
Hellbound said:
the ronin said:
No one in the US wants the crap this BS artist is sellin.... Bye Bye Lotus.spin
And you speak for every potential buyer? Pathetic.
Woah! Don't get dragged in! Ronin loves a good arguement smile
Oh crap, hopefully he hasn't noticed. biggrin

Rawwr

22,722 posts

235 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Hellbound said:
Oh crap, hopefully he hasn't noticed. biggrin



mullerrice18

200 posts

190 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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I don't understand these "city cars" I know that manufacturers need to lower emissions and st but why do they have to build ugly and tall boxes. Why not squash it down a little and widen it a bit like a smaller scirocco/brera? Keep it as a hybrid, make it 750kg and give it 100hp. Offer 3 trim levels: Basic, Touring and sport.



ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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mullerrice18 said:
I don't understand these "city cars" I know that manufacturers need to lower emissions and st but why do they have to build ugly and tall boxes. Why not squash it down a little and widen it a bit like a smaller scirocco/brera? Keep it as a hybrid, make it 750kg and give it 100hp. Offer 3 trim levels: Basic, Touring and sport.
Problem is that a scirocco and a brera are pretty "big" cars compared to these boxes.
Taller cars means more room for the legs/engine/...

If you want to look at a modern, small configuration which is also low/sporty, look at the MX5, one of the key points of the MX5 has always been: as small as current regs allow us to make it.

It's just that when you put people lower, the legs go forward, and the engine has to go forward as well. MX5: 4M, 107: 3,4M.

KDIcarmad

703 posts

152 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Lotus building green cars! No, think about this the Tesla all electric car is quicker to 60 than the car its based on. Clearly these will be real sports cars. That's what Lotus has always done and should always do.

As to the super mini, it will sell. Who believed BMW would own Mini or Mercedes would build a car small than a Ford KA. Both happen.

Hellbound

2,500 posts

177 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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I really hope Lotus get the new Esprit into the next Bond movie. Probably a little late for that, but seeing a Lotus in a Bond film would be nice smile

boobles

15,241 posts

216 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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But Lotus has always made "green" cars! hehe

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3354227.htm

Fire99

9,844 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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KDIcarmad said:
Lotus building green cars! No, think about this the Tesla all electric car is quicker to 60
However, it is far heavier so the handling suffers, it's range is modest at best and it costs a small fortune, putting it in the price band of far more exotic cars.

collateral

7,238 posts

219 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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Better if their city car was more along the lines of a Cappuccino than a Smart.

I wonder if there's a market for a single seater city car scratchchin

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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KDIcarmad said:
the Tesla all electric car is quicker to 60 than the car its based on.
Who cares? It costs three times a smuch as the car it's based on, handles less well, only has a very limited range if you actually dare to use the throttle (100 miles?), and then "fill 'er up mate" takes a minimum of 3.5 hours.

ZesPak

24,435 posts

197 months

Tuesday 13th December 2011
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KDIcarmad said:
Lotus building green cars! No, think about this the Tesla all electric car is quicker to 60 than the car its based on. Clearly these will be real sports cars. That's what Lotus has always done and should always do.

As to the super mini, it will sell. Who believed BMW would own Mini or Mercedes would build a car small than a Ford KA. Both happen.
Sorry, iirc the MINI is larger than the Ford KA.