RE: PH fleet: Golf GTI Edition 35

[E38Ross]

dapearson said:

E38Ross said:

it is, but what's your point?

fking stupid people comparing old and new cars. those cars were 2x the price when new when they had a few options on them.

Don't call me fking stupid mate. My point is that from a performance-per-£ point of view that money buys lots if you can avoid buying new.

Then again, fk it. Buy yourself a new one and i'll have it off you in 3 yrs with a 65% discount.

well you can buy an E46 M3 with 180+k on the clock for £5k so why would you buy a 31k E92 M3?

[Blown2CV]

At least the R looks the part, however since it came about the GTi just looks bland by comparison. Dial in the fact of the £30k barrier breakage and that those wheels look like one seen on golfs from when the mk4 was new... maybe substance over style though as the 0-60 sprint time increase is pretty big considering the type and segment of the car.

[P I Staker]

With those wheels it does just look like a Bluemotion.

[E38Ross]

nickfrog said:

E38Ross said:

dapearson said:

£31,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surely that's 2nd hand RS4 or M3 money?

it is, but what's your point?

fking stupid people comparing old and new cars. those cars were 2x the price when new when they had a few options on them.

Nah it's OK to compare new to second hand. I do it all the time when buying a car and I am still alive.

another point to not compare them is running costs. tyres for an E92 M3 from just about the cheapest place around (micheldever) are a shade over £300 per tyre on the back, and a shade under £300 per tyre on the front. i suspect more expensive than the golfs, and i reckon it'll get through them quicker. it takes 8-9 litres of very expensive oil, it has twice the spark plug count, everything is more expensive, fuel bills, insurance, servicing etc.

don't get me wrong, i wouldn't spend 30k on one of these, but likewise comparing them with something in a totally different market segment is a little off IMO. you can get some nice 2nd hand metal for 60k too which are better than RS4's and M3s, so why would anyone ever buy those? where does it stop? someone has to buy cars new, otherwise us lot won't ever get 2nd hand ones.

[Nick3point2]

so far its depresion has been over £1 per mile..... ouch!

[adz13091982]

Very bland looking for an anniversary edition

[Ved]

I'm on my 4th Golf but I have to say that just bores me to death. I'll keep the R32 for now

[dapearson]

It's all a matter of perspective and depends where you draw the line. I purchased a Leon TDI with 45k at 3 yrs old for £8k. I considered that fair value. I could equally have spend that money on an E46 M3, but for me the running costs were the deciding factor, even though the Leon has continued to depreciate.

I couldn't stomach spending £31k on a golf, but i could stomach spending that much on something more iconic. For some people having a new car is more important than the depreciation. Horses for courses.

[Grayham]

dapearson said:

£31,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surely that's 2nd hand RS4 or M3 money?

Or a 360 with a bit of haggling. What's your point?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3459849.htm

[Blown2CV]

Grayham said:

dapearson said:

£31,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Surely that's 2nd hand RS4 or M3 money?

Or a 360 with a bit of haggling. What's your point?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3459849.htm

Yea i hate it when people say that type of thing too. It is also enough to buy 620 6-foot christmas trees.

[Carnnoisseur]

Benjaminbopper said:

I know that £30k+ is how much a well built German car tends to cost, but for a hatchback I still find this mesmorising and could never personally justify the cost considering the alternatives available.

(apologies, not a cue to start the new vs. used argument - just a personal statement!)

+1

[Andy JB]

I love progress - describing a 50 profile tyre as soft & squidgy. Admitedly they look rubbish on the GTI with 17" wheels

Genrally speaking through a wide variety of makes & models 50 profile are the best profile for balance of cornering/handling and ride quality - higher lack feel & lower too hard a ride for everyday use.

IMO need to buck the trend for overly large wheel/low profile trend and get back to something more suitable for application.

[Frimley111R]

Blimey. Talk about zzzzzz...... with this car. Couldn't you have acquired something interesting?

[JButler]

Not bad Riggers, not bad at all! Think in this case I'd be willing to sacrifice performance for the larger (and substantially better looking) wheels. Who really wants grip in the snow anyway? Perhaps now you can tuck the Puma up before mother nature has her way with those wheel arches.

[oO Trouble Oo]

Hellbound said:

In the cold light of day, I personally wouldn't got for the Evo X or Impreza WRX STI.

I've only read good things about the Golf R, it's better than any GTI and in the right colour can be as understated as any other model in the range.

Compare it to a Megane 250 or even the 265, it's not that much more expensive. It's a much better product in terms of build quality and materials used, plus it's got all wheel drive. A GTI with a few options makes less sense imo.

I've had an edition 30 (perelli (er spelling)) and an evo X. evo x was in a different league.

in my opinion, of course.

[George H]

w8cko said:

Can you really have a "Hot-Hatch" with an automatic / semi-automatic box? Surely they are the last bastion of fully involved gear changes?

I have the DSG in my Polo GTI, and I think that it's way more fun than a manual, but I do use the paddles the majority of the time.

This video sums it up nicely for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRwfvnDt7BA

[dapearson]

Blown2CV said:

Yea i hate it when people say that type of thing too. It is also enough to buy 620 6-foot christmas trees.

It's a matter of opinion. That was mine. You clearly have yours.

[epom]

not sure about the rest of the package yet, however the actual edition 35 wheels were my favourite part so far.

[oO Trouble Oo]

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3431139.htm

Not feeling the matt black wrap, but with the change left over could get some decent wheels, some lowering springs an exhaust and turbo elbow to get 400 bhp and to 60mph in under 4 seconds without chipping the ecu and it leaves the engine warrantee intact...

Ok, not quite new but almost. And could probably get a brand new FQ360 for the price of the gti 35 these days?

Having had both, for me the Evo was a much nicer place to be in, if that's what you're after, and you can leave super cars in your wake, if that's your thrill.

They are also very exclusive, a golf is, well, just a golf.

What's a Golf gti got over an evo x? Speed? No. Handling? No. Equipment levels? No. Refinement at cruise? No. Exclusivity? No. Fuel economy? Yes, but why get a hot hatch if you're worried about that, get a blue motion.

Having said all that, Mitsu service and sales are low of the low.

Edited by oO Trouble Oo on Wednesday 14th December 14:01

[dapearson]

oO Trouble Oo said:

http://pistonheads.com/sales/3431139.htm

Not feeling the matt black wrap, but with the change left over could get some decent wheels, some lowering springs an exhaust and turbo elbow to get 400 bhp without chipping the ecu and leave the engine warrantee intact...

Ok, not quite new but almost. And could probably get a brand new FQ360 for the price of the gti 35 these days?

Having had both, for me the Evo was a much nicer place to be in, if that's what you're after, or you can leave super cars in your wake, if that's your thrill.

They are also very exclusive, a golf is, well, just a golf.

Having said all that, Mitsu service and sales are low of the low.

You need to be careful suggesting alternative uses for the money round here, especially on used cars. They don't like it.