"Cooking": hot or not?

Poll: "Cooking": hot or not?

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Gizmo!

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18,150 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Recently I've noticed a flurry of usage of this phrase "the cooking version" when referring to models in a range of cars.

I'd always thought it referred to the 'hot' version - the M3, the XR4, the VTS... but loads of people seem to use it to mean the dull, standard GL, Style or Popular.

Thinking about it, when I talk about 'cooking' whisky or wine I mean the cheap stuff. But in order to cook something you'd need the hot version.

Which is it supposed to be? Gizmo is very confused.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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cooking = bog-standard cheap version

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Gizmo! said:
Recently I've noticed a flurry of usage of this phrase "the cooking version"....
I'd have said it was an old expression which has generally fallen into disuse. Maybe it's due for a revival!

Worthy of note is that the modest version of a car is often the best value as the price will be played down to give a nice cheap headline in advertising etc.

soad

32,913 posts

177 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Scuffers said:
cooking = bog-standard cheap version
Exactly this, surprised even had to ask hehe

Stu R

21,410 posts

216 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Cooking spec = the everyday stuff.

You wouldn't cook with the Château Pétrus, rather the £4 aldi stuff.

Gizmo!

Original Poster:

18,150 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Stu R said:
Cooking spec = the everyday stuff.

You wouldn't cook with the Château Pétrus, rather the £4 aldi stuff.
Wouldn't cook with anything I wouldn't drink.

Eighteeteewhy

7,259 posts

169 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I always thought bit meant the "in-between" version. I.e Vauxhall SRI not VXR, or Ford ST not RS.

McSam

6,753 posts

176 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Gizmo! said:
Stu R said:
Cooking spec = the everyday stuff.

You wouldn't cook with the Château Pétrus, rather the £4 aldi stuff.
Wouldn't cook with anything I wouldn't drink.
Now you're just being picky with the metaphors wink

It means the bog-basic version, as people have said, taken from the idea of cooking materials being lower quality than those that you might eat or drink on their own. This is very very definitely the original meaning of the phrase!

LuS1fer

41,140 posts

246 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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They actually used to sell "cooking sherry" - awful stuff for cooking that you would never drink. Good way to get rid of the rubbish and by calling it "sherry" it gets associated with the good stuff.

VeeDub Geezer

461 posts

155 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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Eighteeteewhy said:
I always thought bit meant the "in-between" version. I.e Vauxhall SRI not VXR, or Ford ST not RS.
This.

mrmr96

13,736 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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LuS1fer said:
They actually used to sell "cooking sherry" - awful stuff for cooking that you would never drink. Good way to get rid of the rubbish and by calling it "sherry" it gets associated with the good stuff.
Simimlarly "cooking chocolate" is designed with different properties in mind, like ability to melt/mix etc. It doesn't taste good if eaten alone, but is better to cook with than regular "eating chocolate".

SWoll

18,444 posts

259 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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VeeDub Geezer said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
I always thought bit meant the "in-between" version. I.e Vauxhall SRI not VXR, or Ford ST not RS.
This.
+1

To me it's the "not quite the most sporty" model.


Think Saxo VTR rather than VTS or Ausi S4 rather than RS4.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

275 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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SWoll said:
VeeDub Geezer said:
Eighteeteewhy said:
I always thought bit meant the "in-between" version. I.e Vauxhall SRI not VXR, or Ford ST not RS.
This.
+1

To me it's the "not quite the most sporty" model.


Think Saxo VTR rather than VTS or Ausi S4 rather than RS4.
nope, in your example it would be the 1.8T A4 (or TDi)

AndyT77

1,755 posts

163 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I don't think it refers to the bog standard version, i think it's more like the 'luke warm' variety. Like someone has said already, stuff like Vauxhall SRI, Ford ST etc.

Dave Hedgehog

14,569 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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as mentioned its a reference to foods that are only fit for ingredients and can not be consumed on there own, ie bog standard

mmm-five

11,249 posts

285 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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It may depend on where the word is being used, as I've seen US motor mags refer to the hotter versions as 'cooking'.


cook [koo'k]
verb (used with object)
  • to prepare (food) by the use of heat, as by boiling, baking, or roasting.
  • to subject (anything) to the application of heat.
  • Slang . to ruin; spoil.
  • Informal . to falsify, as accounts: to cook the expense figures.
verb (used without object)
  • to prepare food by the use of heat.
  • (of food) to undergo cooking.
Slang
  • to be full of activity and excitement: Las Vegas cooks around the clock.
  • to perform, work, or do in just the right way and with energy and enthusiasm: That new drummer is really cooking tonight. Now you're cooking!

Gizmo!

Original Poster:

18,150 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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mmm-five said:
It may depend on where the word is being used, as I've seen US motor mags refer to the hotter versions as 'cooking'.
I'm glad I haven't gone completely mad. I've definitely seen UK mags use it in that sense too. And possibly even this website... where are the journos?

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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I always thought it came from terms like "cooking wine", used to mean cheap low quality wine that was only suitable for cooking with because it was too foul to drink... thus I always thought it meant low performance versions.

Gizmo!

Original Poster:

18,150 posts

210 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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AndyT77 said:
I don't think it refers to the bog standard version, i think it's more like the 'luke warm' variety. Like someone has said already, stuff like Vauxhall SRI, Ford ST etc.
I'd call those "warm hatches".

First came in when the Clio RSi and Fiesta Si were introduced to avoid the high premiums of the 16v and RS Turbo.

versus

612 posts

149 months

Thursday 29th December 2011
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i call it the vanilla version