so, who would you actually trust with your car?
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Did have a car written off by a good friend years ago, i was gutted to lose the car but in his defence when he was released from hospital he turned up with a bankers draft for what i paid for the car having borrowed the money (only had third party cover), i couldnt have asked for anything more.
Bonus was i got to keep what was left of the car & made a few quid selling the parts on
Bonus was i got to keep what was left of the car & made a few quid selling the parts on
I can think of at least three people who went out and bought an E-type after I let them drive mine. None had ever driven one before but came back enamoured. The best though was a lad of 13 at Silverstone who could put it sideways! Learned to drive on Dad's farm at 10, he did, and it was on hid Dad's recommendation that I let him try it out. Last time I saw him 15 years on I got a crick in my neck looking up to him and he surely couldn't drive it now!
Pretty much any of my friends. For the most part they're better drivers than me anyway. Always a slight niggle over the clutch on the Carrera GT, but only because I don't fancy replacing it. The biggest worry is not them pranging it, but their getting hurt in the process; that would be very hard to deal with.
It's interesting that there seems to be absolutely no correlation either way between the likelihood of someone being willing to lend their car to others and it's value.
I wonder if some kind of "value/wealth" metric would show a correlation or if it's nothing to do with the car in question at all.
I wonder if some kind of "value/wealth" metric would show a correlation or if it's nothing to do with the car in question at all.
No-one.
My missus is an occasional borrower of my car but that makes me cringe.
Considering she cooked a head gasket on her own car even with the temp through the roof and warning lights she continued to drive as she had to get where she was going and fooked the car!!!!!
No oil in another that ended up seized and down the scrappy.
Drives mine like her 1.2 clio and stalls it all the time as she isn't giving it enough juice to move.
Even then she is under instructions to stop driving and pull over if any lights come on,rather than ignore them.
My missus is an occasional borrower of my car but that makes me cringe.
Considering she cooked a head gasket on her own car even with the temp through the roof and warning lights she continued to drive as she had to get where she was going and fooked the car!!!!!
No oil in another that ended up seized and down the scrappy.
Drives mine like her 1.2 clio and stalls it all the time as she isn't giving it enough juice to move.
Even then she is under instructions to stop driving and pull over if any lights come on,rather than ignore them.
Edited by Panda76 on Friday 30th December 09:55
Im quite relaxed. My parents often drive mine, my other half drives mine too (she can afford to replace, but is insured) and I suppose a handful of very close mates.
Everyone seems to let me drive their cars, even from 18 years old I was playing around in Scooby's, Evo's etc. Im insured FC on them, so its never been a worry, and would like to think of myself as a safe driver (im not amazing driver though).
Everyone seems to let me drive their cars, even from 18 years old I was playing around in Scooby's, Evo's etc. Im insured FC on them, so its never been a worry, and would like to think of myself as a safe driver (im not amazing driver though).
kambites said:
It's interesting that there seems to be absolutely no correlation either way between the likelihood of someone being willing to lend their car to others and it's value.
I wonder if some kind of "value/wealth" metric would show a correlation or if it's nothing to do with the car in question at all.
My cars vary from £50,000 to £250,000. I'll soon have a new plaything valued at about £6,000 and I'll probably be more worried about the new toy than the old ones. For me, cars are not objets d'art but living breathing entities, to be enjoyed and in so doing give joy to others as well. If I count the smiles on the friends' faces when they've come back from driving one of my cars I am a millionaire many times over. Does that explain my ethos?I wonder if some kind of "value/wealth" metric would show a correlation or if it's nothing to do with the car in question at all.
I'd trust maybe 4 people at a push.
I know that i would only let them drive it if they were comprehensively insured, but the main worry is that it could get damaged and me not be able to do anything about it.
I think a small test borrow would probably be in order before i could comfortably throw someone the keys and not think about it till they brought the car back.
I know that i would only let them drive it if they were comprehensively insured, but the main worry is that it could get damaged and me not be able to do anything about it.
I think a small test borrow would probably be in order before i could comfortably throw someone the keys and not think about it till they brought the car back.
My BMW= anyone
My Skyline= no one*
Well worth a peruse.
If he can handle this then my measly 400 bhp won't scare him!
My Skyline= no one*
- except Ron Kiddell of RK Tuning who is building a 900bhp RB30'd 1150kg track 32
Well worth a peruse.
If he can handle this then my measly 400 bhp won't scare him!
I trust my girlfriend as she's a good driver and cares about damage because I care about it... although she does have a propensity to hammer speed bumps in anything with enough ground clearance. Seems to be a family ingrained thing, so I'm gradually weaning her out of it
I trust the old man with any car I don't intend to keep for a long time... ball joints, bushes and dampers seem to mysteriously disintegrate on anything he commutes in for more than a few months. I suspect either the same speed bump attack that the gf does or just the terrible state of the roads in SE and Central London.
He is the creator of clunks and the killer of tracking
I trust the old man with any car I don't intend to keep for a long time... ball joints, bushes and dampers seem to mysteriously disintegrate on anything he commutes in for more than a few months. I suspect either the same speed bump attack that the gf does or just the terrible state of the roads in SE and Central London.
He is the creator of clunks and the killer of tracking
I think there's a tendancy amongst car enthusiasts to imagine that 'normal' people simply aren't capable of safely piloting anything remotely out of the ordinary. In my experience, it simply isn't true.
Whether it be friends needing a car for the day, my mother borrowing something mid-engined or my wife going to work through the snow in a 911, I've let pretty much anyone I know drive whatever I happen to have at the time.
Of those that have driven my cars, none have given me cause to start being precious about it.
Whether it be friends needing a car for the day, my mother borrowing something mid-engined or my wife going to work through the snow in a 911, I've let pretty much anyone I know drive whatever I happen to have at the time.
Of those that have driven my cars, none have given me cause to start being precious about it.
lowdrag said:
My cars vary from £50,000 to £250,000. I'll soon have a new plaything valued at about £6,000 and I'll probably be more worried about the new toy than the old ones. For me, cars are not objets d'art but living breathing entities, to be enjoyed and in so doing give joy to others as well. If I count the smiles on the friends' faces when they've come back from driving one of my cars I am a millionaire many times over. Does that explain my ethos?
Agreed! I just have a crappy £5000 Audi A6 but even when I buy something a bit more expensive next year I don't think I'll have a problem with someone driving it who I know is really going to enjoy it. Most ppl will go slowly anyway and just want to experience the weighting of the controls, etc. I draw the line at letting someone ride my motorcycle though, unless they're Valentino Rossi as even a semi-experienced rider can drop my bike, low-side, or loop it on the throttle
Risotto said:
I think there's a tendancy amongst car enthusiasts to imagine that 'normal' people simply aren't capable of safely piloting anything remotely out of the ordinary. In my experience, it simply isn't true.
Whether it be friends needing a car for the day, my mother borrowing something mid-engined or my wife going to work through the snow in a 911, I've let pretty much anyone I know drive whatever I happen to have at the time.
Of those that have driven my cars, none have given me cause to start being precious about it.
It's not so much that (for me), it is more that I don't trust most of my mates to look after it! Whether it be friends needing a car for the day, my mother borrowing something mid-engined or my wife going to work through the snow in a 911, I've let pretty much anyone I know drive whatever I happen to have at the time.
Of those that have driven my cars, none have given me cause to start being precious about it.
One will happily use the bumpers as parking aids, another will hold the car on the clutch on hills for ages, one will happily rev all the way to the redline when the engine is stone cold, and another rides the clutch so much it is unreal - 3k rpm reversing out of a parking space at 5 mph!!
lowdrag said:
My cars vary from £50,000 to £250,000. I'll soon have a new plaything valued at about £6,000 and I'll probably be more worried about the new toy than the old ones. For me, cars are not objets d'art but living breathing entities, to be enjoyed and in so doing give joy to others as well. If I count the smiles on the friends' faces when they've come back from driving one of my cars I am a millionaire many times over. Does that explain my ethos?
Indeed. Had to force the keys into my brothers hand last time i went away.But i know he'd of loved every minute once the fear had passed.
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