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Hold on, has no-one picked up on this?
http://www.oscmotorsport.co.uk/sales/car013/sales_...
An e28 M5 for £4k?
Comes up as a real M5 according to Eurocarparts site, could be the V5 has been changed though.
Plenty of e28 M535s masquerade as M5's but his is apparently genuine.
And it has tax and test.
And it's £4K!!
Sorry, back to your non hand built lesser models
http://www.oscmotorsport.co.uk/sales/car013/sales_...
An e28 M5 for £4k?
Comes up as a real M5 according to Eurocarparts site, could be the V5 has been changed though.
Plenty of e28 M535s masquerade as M5's but his is apparently genuine.
And it has tax and test.
And it's £4K!!
Sorry, back to your non hand built lesser models
Edited by dome on Friday 30th December 21:43
dome said:
Hold on, has no-one picked up on this?
http://www.oscmotorsport.co.uk/sales/car013/sales_...
An e28 M5 for £4k?
If that's kosher - shttp://www.oscmotorsport.co.uk/sales/car013/sales_...
An e28 M5 for £4k?
t the bed!Unless it's utterly fooked of course.
Hi there. We'll, the E39 had been on my list of cars to try for a while, so I bought one in March 2011. In summary, have not regretted it once - some epic drives mainly across Border country en route from the Midlands to Scotland. I just think you have to go into ownership with your eyes open, but the way I look at it, you could buy a new £60k super saloon and lose £20k in depreciation in a flash. So, if it stings you for a few grand in repairs or the absolute worst happens and the engine goes pop, you've still saved money ! And a blow up on that scale probably won't happen. As for someone saying it doesn't feel fast, when you come up to other motors and whisk safely past in the gear of your choice, you quickly gain perspective, they are effortless yes, but never less than thrilling in my opinion.
WindsorRob said:
Hi there. We'll, the E39 had been on my list of cars to try for a while, so I bought one in March 2011. In summary, have not regretted it once - some epic drives mainly across Border country en route from the Midlands to Scotland. I just think you have to go into ownership with your eyes open, but the way I look at it, you could buy a new £60k super saloon and lose £20k in depreciation in a flash. So, if it stings you for a few grand in repairs or the absolute worst happens and the engine goes pop, you've still saved money ! And a blow up on that scale probably won't happen. As for someone saying it doesn't feel fast, when you come up to other motors and whisk safely past in the gear of your choice, you quickly gain perspective, they are effortless yes, but never less than thrilling in my opinion.
Would they see which way an E55 amg 5.5syper barged went though... pOWER!!!inkiboo said:
The man is right, so much so that I had a very good offer for mine and turned it down.
If you keep £3k ready for emergencies you should be fine.
Mine on winter wheels. They are bloody brilliant. Any other question, feel free to PM me.
If I ever manage to accquire one of these the first thing I plan to do is fit a set of those with normal weather tyres and keep the proper wheels in the garage. If you keep £3k ready for emergencies you should be fine.
Mine on winter wheels. They are bloody brilliant. Any other question, feel free to PM me.
Much nicer on small wheels.
julian64 said:
I'm sorry but I think this is a load of bks.
Apart from early vanos, the engine is pretty bulletproof, most of the car is pretty bog standard E39 parts which makes them easy to repair.
As for the comment about them only ever being sold if somethings going wrong. What a crock.
Mine currently has 140K on the clock and has never put a foot wrong.
The only people who shouldn't buy these are people who are mechanical numpties, because despite the age, your average BMW dealer still expects you to have top of the range wallets.
So if you are mechanically inept you might want something newer with a warrenty, if not its a pretty unbeatable car.
Other than that you are buying a 6K car which has the power to embarrass a lot of supercars.
They are expensive to run. End of story. I'm not some harbinger of doom; I am simply a realist.ks.Apart from early vanos, the engine is pretty bulletproof, most of the car is pretty bog standard E39 parts which makes them easy to repair.
As for the comment about them only ever being sold if somethings going wrong. What a crock.
Mine currently has 140K on the clock and has never put a foot wrong.
The only people who shouldn't buy these are people who are mechanical numpties, because despite the age, your average BMW dealer still expects you to have top of the range wallets.
So if you are mechanically inept you might want something newer with a warrenty, if not its a pretty unbeatable car.
Other than that you are buying a 6K car which has the power to embarrass a lot of supercars.
Well done getting yours to 140k. Irrespective of whether you or someone else put those miles on it, there will have been some money spent on it at some point in time however. To pretend otherwise (even by implication), is simply nonsense.
Ref. your 'standard E39 parts' comment: you are wrong. In fact, most of the parts (which actually fail through wear and tear) are M5 specific. Put it this way, with the two E39 M5s that I've ownwed, I haven't spent a penny replacing a common E39 part. Actually, I tell a lie: I once replaced a heater resistor out of the combined £9k I spent maintaining them over a total of 20k miles. Both were low mileage when I bought them incidentally.
And ironically, the VANOS isn't actually an issue on these cars - pre or post facelift. Problems tend to arise with the solenoids/actuators on early cars, but even then it's rare for a failure to occur. The VANOS itself is largely bullet proof. Where you are getting confused is with the modifiction to the VANOS on facelift cars which included an oil accumlutor to quieten down the VANOS on start-up. Otherwise the mechanicals remained the same (note: I'm only talking about the VANOS here).
If you're still seething, take a look at my profile for a second. You'll note that I might just have the experience to back up my statements
Great Pretender said:
They are expensive to run. End of story. I'm not some harbinger of doom; I am simply a realist.
Well done getting yours to 140k. Irrespective of whether you or someone else put those miles on it, there will have been some money spent on it at some point in time however. To pretend otherwise (even by implication), is simply nonsense.
Ref. your 'standard E39 parts' comment: you are wrong. In fact, most of the parts (which actually fail through wear and tear) are M5 specific. Put it this way, with the two E39 M5s that I've ownwed, I haven't spent a penny replacing a common E39 part. Actually, I tell a lie: I once replaced a heater resistor out of the combined £9k I spent maintaining them over a total of 20k miles. Both were low mileage when I bought them incidentally.
And ironically, the VANOS isn't actually an issue on these cars - pre or post facelift. Problems tend to arise with the solenoids/actuators on early cars, but even then it's rare for a failure to occur. The VANOS itself is largely bullet proof. Where you are getting confused is with the modifiction to the VANOS on facelift cars which included an oil accumlutor to quieten down the VANOS on start-up. Otherwise the mechanicals remained the same (note: I'm only talking about the VANOS here).
If you're still seething, take a look at my profile for a second. You'll note that I might just have the experience to back up my statements
are you on a mission to personally own every M5 ever made lolWell done getting yours to 140k. Irrespective of whether you or someone else put those miles on it, there will have been some money spent on it at some point in time however. To pretend otherwise (even by implication), is simply nonsense.
Ref. your 'standard E39 parts' comment: you are wrong. In fact, most of the parts (which actually fail through wear and tear) are M5 specific. Put it this way, with the two E39 M5s that I've ownwed, I haven't spent a penny replacing a common E39 part. Actually, I tell a lie: I once replaced a heater resistor out of the combined £9k I spent maintaining them over a total of 20k miles. Both were low mileage when I bought them incidentally.
And ironically, the VANOS isn't actually an issue on these cars - pre or post facelift. Problems tend to arise with the solenoids/actuators on early cars, but even then it's rare for a failure to occur. The VANOS itself is largely bullet proof. Where you are getting confused is with the modifiction to the VANOS on facelift cars which included an oil accumlutor to quieten down the VANOS on start-up. Otherwise the mechanicals remained the same (note: I'm only talking about the VANOS here).
If you're still seething, take a look at my profile for a second. You'll note that I might just have the experience to back up my statements
Dave Hedgehog said:
are you on a mission to personally own every M5 ever made lol
You'd think so! But no, I just love them. However, I am under no illusion that these cars are inexpensive to run and I simply will not entertain suggestions to the contrary, because it is frankly tosh.If you want to own an M5 which drives in a manner not dissimilar to when it was new, it's going to cost you money. It's not rocket science my friends
But hey, what other car can you buy for the money that will hold steadfast with a 996 Turbo? Just don't pretend it will be free!
Great Pretender said:
You'd think so! But no, I just love them. However, I am under no illusion that these cars are inexpensive to run and I simply will not entertain suggestions to the contrary, because it is frankly tosh.
If you want to own an M5 which drives in a manner not dissimilar to when it was new, it's going to cost you money. It's not rocket science my friends
But hey, what other car can you buy for the money that will hold steadfast with a 996 Turbo? Just don't pretend it will be free!
don't have to tell me, i adore the M5, RS6 and Datsun GTR, but I am acutely aware of what they cost to maintain If you want to own an M5 which drives in a manner not dissimilar to when it was new, it's going to cost you money. It's not rocket science my friends
But hey, what other car can you buy for the money that will hold steadfast with a 996 Turbo? Just don't pretend it will be free!
Have to agree with Great Pretender here... They're expensive to run.
Mine was a 2001 with about 106k. I kept it for a year doing less than 10,000 miles:
New Thermostat
New brake switch
New steering angle sensor
Vanos strip and rebuild (yes, facelift cars DO have vanos issues)
New parking brake
New ignition switch
Oil Service (I supplied the oil)
Two front tyres
Brake fluid and coolant change
The above cost well over £3000.
Things that needed doing when I sold it:
Two rear tyres £350
Pads and disks all round £750 - £1000
Inspection 2 with 2000 miles £600
Having re-read the above... why the hell am I thinking of getting another
Maybe it's because it was, by far, the best car I've driven, let alone owned!
Mine was a 2001 with about 106k. I kept it for a year doing less than 10,000 miles:
New Thermostat
New brake switch
New steering angle sensor
Vanos strip and rebuild (yes, facelift cars DO have vanos issues)
New parking brake
New ignition switch
Oil Service (I supplied the oil)
Two front tyres
Brake fluid and coolant change
The above cost well over £3000.
Things that needed doing when I sold it:
Two rear tyres £350
Pads and disks all round £750 - £1000
Inspection 2 with 2000 miles £600
Having re-read the above... why the hell am I thinking of getting another
Maybe it's because it was, by far, the best car I've driven, let alone owned!
mikey-r said:
Have to agree with Great Pretender here... They're expensive to run.
Mine was a 2001 with about 106k. I kept it for a year doing less than 10,000 miles:
New Thermostat
New brake switch
New steering angle sensor
Vanos strip and rebuild (yes, facelift cars DO have vanos issues)
New parking brake
New ignition switch
Oil Service (I supplied the oil)
Two front tyres
Brake fluid and coolant change
The above cost well over £3000.
Things that needed doing when I sold it:
Two rear tyres £350
Pads and disks all round £750 - £1000
Inspection 2 with 2000 miles £600
Having re-read the above... why the hell am I thinking of getting another
Maybe it's because it was, by far, the best car I've driven, let alone owned!
Did you pay BMW labour rates for all of that?Mine was a 2001 with about 106k. I kept it for a year doing less than 10,000 miles:
New Thermostat
New brake switch
New steering angle sensor
Vanos strip and rebuild (yes, facelift cars DO have vanos issues)
New parking brake
New ignition switch
Oil Service (I supplied the oil)
Two front tyres
Brake fluid and coolant change
The above cost well over £3000.
Things that needed doing when I sold it:
Two rear tyres £350
Pads and disks all round £750 - £1000
Inspection 2 with 2000 miles £600
Having re-read the above... why the hell am I thinking of getting another
Maybe it's because it was, by far, the best car I've driven, let alone owned!
RWD cossie wil said:
Did you pay BMW labour rates for all of that?
Nope, car didn't go near a main dealer.To be fair, the vanos strip & rebuild (both side) and resetting the timing came to £1400. This was after being quoted by a local BMW specialist garage that it needed a replacement vanos on side 1 @ £2400 and this was after stinging me £250 for diagnosis! Getting both sides rebuilt seemed cheap in comparison
I've been lucky enough to own 2 E39 M5s. One a 2000 W plate and the other a facelift 2002 car. Both were wonderful and rank amongst the best cars I've had the pleasure of owning.
Sure, they like a drop of the black stuff and drink SUL like their life depends on it, but overall the ownership experience was fantastic. Onkar at OSC was my local indie and he sorted the odds and sods and assisted with a diff rebuild on my 2nd M5 when the bearing crapped itself. A decent indie is a great ally with cars like this.
The M5 is the very definition of a super saloon. The iron fist in a velvet glove. Able to whisk 4 in comfort to the 'Ring, play with GT3's all weekend and schlep back to Blighty without fuss or histrionics. Cracking cars.
Matt
Sure, they like a drop of the black stuff and drink SUL like their life depends on it, but overall the ownership experience was fantastic. Onkar at OSC was my local indie and he sorted the odds and sods and assisted with a diff rebuild on my 2nd M5 when the bearing crapped itself. A decent indie is a great ally with cars like this.
The M5 is the very definition of a super saloon. The iron fist in a velvet glove. Able to whisk 4 in comfort to the 'Ring, play with GT3's all weekend and schlep back to Blighty without fuss or histrionics. Cracking cars.
Matt
Great Pretender said:
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Ref. your 'standard E39 parts' comment: you are wrong. In fact, most of the parts (which actually fail through wear and tear) are M5 specific. Put it this way, with the two E39 M5s that I've ownwed, I haven't spent a penny replacing a common E39 part. Actually, I tell a lie: I once replaced a heater resistor out of the combined £9k I spent maintaining them over a total of 20k miles. Both were low mileage when I bought them incidentally.
Which parts are they?Ref. your 'standard E39 parts' comment: you are wrong. In fact, most of the parts (which actually fail through wear and tear) are M5 specific. Put it this way, with the two E39 M5s that I've ownwed, I haven't spent a penny replacing a common E39 part. Actually, I tell a lie: I once replaced a heater resistor out of the combined £9k I spent maintaining them over a total of 20k miles. Both were low mileage when I bought them incidentally.
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