RE: PH Blog: Politeness costs nothing...
Discussion
predding said:
Could someone tell me what Harris is waffling on about. All the articles so far just seem to be filling in space...
This particular article is about politeness. It is something most posters agree with.It also seems to be the consensus that his other 'blogs/aricles' are enjoyed by the readers.
sanctum said:
This is one of those situations where you are paying specifically for the use of a facility for a certain vehicle on a single specific occasion. You can't even take the car away and bring it back to the same space and rely on the same ticket.
That might be as it is, it does not meat it's as it should be nor that it should be tolerated. First off, that is some neck on the lady in that picture. I mean, WOW, what is she a goddamned giraffe FFS!!! It almost looks photoshopped.
Secondly, I feel bad for you folks across the pond. Your authorities are really screwing you guys over bad aren't they. Speed cameras, unruly plod, and now this machine!
Here in the U.S. We don't have speed cameras thankfully, but in heavy trafficked areas and certain intersections we have red light cameras that flash a photo of your plates and send you a ticket if you happen to blow the red light. Nowhere near as bad as your scameras.
As far as the parking machines, we've had similar machines for a while now, but we don't have to input our license plate numbers. Its called pay and display, where you simply input the amount of time you wish to buy, insert CC or cash, a ticket priints and you place it on the dashboard of your vehicle. I often give my ticket to someone else if there is still time on it.
I swear, I don't know how in the world you all don't fight the system and tell them to stuff it!
Secondly, I feel bad for you folks across the pond. Your authorities are really screwing you guys over bad aren't they. Speed cameras, unruly plod, and now this machine!
Here in the U.S. We don't have speed cameras thankfully, but in heavy trafficked areas and certain intersections we have red light cameras that flash a photo of your plates and send you a ticket if you happen to blow the red light. Nowhere near as bad as your scameras.
As far as the parking machines, we've had similar machines for a while now, but we don't have to input our license plate numbers. Its called pay and display, where you simply input the amount of time you wish to buy, insert CC or cash, a ticket priints and you place it on the dashboard of your vehicle. I often give my ticket to someone else if there is still time on it.
I swear, I don't know how in the world you all don't fight the system and tell them to stuff it!
We have parking vouchers which are awful. You spend ages looking for a space then you have to run about looking for a shop which will sell you one, then run back to the car before a warden comes and gives you a ticket whilst your getting a voucher.
As your local High Street is dying off, councils should abolish short term parking charges, only short term otherwise all the office and shop workers will park there, this will encourage people to go into the town centre rather than out of town retail parks where you can park for free.
Manners cost nothing not even on the road, if we all thought more about this and yielded slightly to allow people in and out, all our drives home would be a less stressful place.
As your local High Street is dying off, councils should abolish short term parking charges, only short term otherwise all the office and shop workers will park there, this will encourage people to go into the town centre rather than out of town retail parks where you can park for free.
Manners cost nothing not even on the road, if we all thought more about this and yielded slightly to allow people in and out, all our drives home would be a less stressful place.
ESOG said:
First off, that is some neck on the lady in that picture. I mean, WOW, what is she a goddamned giraffe FFS!!! It almost looks photoshopped.
Secondly, I feel bad for you folks across the pond. Your authorities are really screwing you guys over bad aren't they. Speed cameras, unruly plod, and now this machine!
Here in the U.S. We don't have speed cameras thankfully, but in heavy trafficked areas and certain intersections we have red light cameras that flash a photo of your plates and send you a ticket if you happen to blow the red light. Nowhere near as bad as your scameras.
OTOH I can sit at 90 mph all day without a spot of bother as long as I keep my eyes open and the radio on for reports of mobile scameras. Not many states in the US where I can do that without being pulled by plod. Secondly, I feel bad for you folks across the pond. Your authorities are really screwing you guys over bad aren't they. Speed cameras, unruly plod, and now this machine!
Here in the U.S. We don't have speed cameras thankfully, but in heavy trafficked areas and certain intersections we have red light cameras that flash a photo of your plates and send you a ticket if you happen to blow the red light. Nowhere near as bad as your scameras.
It's just another way that motorists have to dis-proportionately subsidise evey other sector
No change in the machines, paying for time you don't use, not being able to give away tickets.......as a result, the true cost of parking is much higher than the £ per hr quoted on the boards
I got a ticket for being 5 minutes over a 4 hr pay & display in mcr the other day - it cannot be logical to alienate shoppers like this. There should be a different approach to tolerance levels for those who dont buy a ticket compared to those who do and are over by a tiny amount
The impact is that shops are dead because it's harder and harder to get near them, which drives people to the multiples in the out of city centre shopping centres and to the supermarkets
The tiny amount extra they make on parking is nothing compared to the fortunes lost from small retail businesses closing down as a result of putting people off even more
No change in the machines, paying for time you don't use, not being able to give away tickets.......as a result, the true cost of parking is much higher than the £ per hr quoted on the boards
I got a ticket for being 5 minutes over a 4 hr pay & display in mcr the other day - it cannot be logical to alienate shoppers like this. There should be a different approach to tolerance levels for those who dont buy a ticket compared to those who do and are over by a tiny amount
The impact is that shops are dead because it's harder and harder to get near them, which drives people to the multiples in the out of city centre shopping centres and to the supermarkets
The tiny amount extra they make on parking is nothing compared to the fortunes lost from small retail businesses closing down as a result of putting people off even more
My local council in N. Wales put these same machines in local carparks and proudly stated in the local paper that they had done so to stop drivers giving their tickets to other drivers and therefor deny the local authority their due income, this was about two years ago,and the fee that they can't possibly survive without 20p yes 20p, thats the price for 3 hrs, how many 20p's that they may not have recieved due to drivers generosity are they going to have to collect to cover the unknow £1000's of pounds the machines cost to buy, install and maintain and more importanty, how did some petty minded beaurocrat manage to become so patheticaly anal that he thought this was an good idea and then manage to convince the councillors that this was a worthwhile venture especialy at a time when the county council are discussing doing away with parking fees to encourage people to shop localy instead of out of town shopping parks.
as an aside, I am dissabled and cannot bend my back or legs without a lot of pain, the council saw fit to possition the machines so low to the ground that I cannot see the letters and numbers properly and I often put in the wrong registration.
Perhaps one day good deeds and pleasant human interaction will be worth more than 20p.
as an aside, I am dissabled and cannot bend my back or legs without a lot of pain, the council saw fit to possition the machines so low to the ground that I cannot see the letters and numbers properly and I often put in the wrong registration.
Perhaps one day good deeds and pleasant human interaction will be worth more than 20p.
jimslops said:
This particular article is about politeness. It is something most posters agree with.
It also seems to be the consensus that his other 'blogs/aricles' are enjoyed by the readers.
Are you implying that people who don't share their unexpired ticket are being impolite?It also seems to be the consensus that his other 'blogs/aricles' are enjoyed by the readers.
Some of us, quite reasonably, don't have the time to sit in car parks before we leave waiting for a skinflint looking for a free ride to hand our tickets to.
A bit like the other articles so far by the author, it's a case of drivel journalism looking for a cheap bit of coverage.
What have we had so far? This article about the oh-so-important issue of losing the (unlawful) ability to assign your contractual car parking rights to a third party, one about a 13 year old hot hatch and now some ancient video taken ages ago about him being a passenger in a car.
Wow, Haymarket have really hit gold with this guy.
10 Pence Short said:
Are you implying that people who don't share their unexpired ticket are being impolite?
Yes.If you have significant time left on a ticket stick it to the machine, it's a small kindness that costs you nothing whilst making the world a nicer more civilised less gouging place.
10 Pence Short said:
Are you implying that people who don't share their unexpired ticket are being impolite?
Some of us, quite reasonably, don't have the time to sit in car parks before we leave waiting for a skinflint looking for a free ride to hand our tickets to.
A bit like the other articles so far by the author, it's a case of drivel journalism looking for a cheap bit of coverage.
What have we had so far? This article about the oh-so-important issue of losing the (unlawful) ability to assign your contractual car parking rights to a third party, one about a 13 year old hot hatch and now some ancient video taken ages ago about him being a passenger in a car.
Wow, Haymarket have really hit gold with this guy.
Yes, I am implying it is. How many people do not have 10 more seconds when they are leaving somewhere? Car parks by their nature of being multi-story are usually multi-story for a reason, busy and popular area. So, it does not take long to pass on the ticket. Or since you are 'OH SO BUSY' mr 10p, stick it on the machine Some of us, quite reasonably, don't have the time to sit in car parks before we leave waiting for a skinflint looking for a free ride to hand our tickets to.
A bit like the other articles so far by the author, it's a case of drivel journalism looking for a cheap bit of coverage.
What have we had so far? This article about the oh-so-important issue of losing the (unlawful) ability to assign your contractual car parking rights to a third party, one about a 13 year old hot hatch and now some ancient video taken ages ago about him being a passenger in a car.
Wow, Haymarket have really hit gold with this guy.
.Drivel journalism? Love to see you do better.
Did you not enjoy C63 video?
Pothole said:
hy does this always come up? Do you really only ever criticise anything if you can do better yourself? Didn't think so.
Agree - it was perhaps uncalled for. What didn't you think so?I just think it was worth reading regardless and to sit there and call it drivel seems a nonsense.
Motorrad said:
10 Pence Short said:
Is it unfair of councils to monetise assets they rightfully own?
We own them, not the council, they run them on our behalf and as Harris has pointed out this sort of policy increases the amount of hassle and bad feeling that there is already too much of.Surely most people would like their services run on the basis of improving life for everyone?
(Hey, just playing Devil's Advocaat, y'know - I'm with you, and the motorist is quite clearly seen as a cash-cow in this country)
KB_S1 said:
Glasgow is generally better for driving as it has a better layout and the majority of drivers are more courteous.
This is tempered by the occasional late night M8 slip closures and the ridiculous diversions.
I actually thought this was me, but I was up there working for a week, and I couldn't believe how much more courteous people were, it was really nice to see. This is tempered by the occasional late night M8 slip closures and the ridiculous diversions.
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