RE: PH Fleet: VW Golf GTI Edition 35

RE: PH Fleet: VW Golf GTI Edition 35

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BoostMonkey

569 posts

186 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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mooseracer said:
You can get a brand new, unregistered one for £16k.
Do you have any details, we might be after one in estate form soon
(sorry to hijack the thread)

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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toppstuff said:
Nah, its all cobblers in my book.

Look, you can get a pre registered Skoda VRS with nominal mileage for £16k.

Imagine you were offered:

Option 1 : A Golf GTI

Option 2 : A Skoda VRS plus £14,000 in cash stuffed in a tesco bag on the back seat.

In the real world, where cars are not freely lent from nice car companies and you have to pay for them, what would you choose?

Think of all the Heston meals at the Fat Duck you could buy with the extra. Or a Caterham and some change. Or a holiday with your mates to Vegas. Or a boat. Or a lot of coke and hookers.

Of course, a Golf is a little better here and a bit shinier there, but none of that really matters. Each incremental improvement in ability is costing a fortune and it just ain't worth it...
Sir, I fully respect your opinion, But you're wrong wink

Seriously, though, it's a case of different strokes, I guess - for me that marginal difference is sufficient to make the extra cost bearable. which is exactly why the VW group makes a Golf GTi and Octavia vRS smile

mooseracer

1,911 posts

171 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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BoostMonkey said:
Do you have any details, we might be after one in estate form soon
(sorry to hijack the thread)
Go to www.drivethedeal.com

Brand new UK cars supplied and delivered from UK dealers, but nice cheap prices. I've used them before and nothing but praise for them. Estate will be a bit more I expect.

Luca Brasi

885 posts

175 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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31000 pounds? I'm sure it's a very capable car but just think about all the much nicer and faster stuff you can pick up in the classifieds for that sort of money.

spud989

2,754 posts

181 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Dave Hedgehog said:
sounds just like a golf
Overlooked hehe

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Riggers said:
Sir, I fully respect your opinion, But you're wrong wink

Seriously, though, it's a case of different strokes, I guess - for me that marginal difference is sufficient to make the extra cost bearable. which is exactly why the VW group makes a Golf GTi and Octavia vRS smile
I have come to the conclusion that you must be a style victim. Brand aware. You've drunk the VW marketing kool aid and you've lost perspective, fella ! wink


cjgreaves41

106 posts

156 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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List price new: £31,030 (inc. £1770 infotainment pack and £440 for parking sensors front and rear)


.......... £31K for a golf.......... however good it is that is unbeleivable madness

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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toppstuff said:
I have come to the conclusion that you must be a style victim. Brand aware. You've drunk the VW marketing kool aid and you've lost perspective, fella ! wink
Won't deny it! biggrin It's kind of like a version of Stockholm syndrome, I think...

Having said that, If you ever saw my wardrobe/the contents of my house, 'brand aware' is not a term you'd likely use. 'Scruffy oik' would cover it better... smile

nickfrog

21,244 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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miniandy said:
nickfrog said:
Didn't realise that the Megane and X-trail shared the same platform ?

I have no problems with people paying a lot of money for what they perceive as a "premium" product but it drives literaly like the Octavia, unsurprisingly.
The X-Trail and Koleos did, the Megane example was to illustrate the 'essentially the same' comparison used earlier. The Octavia is just like a Golf. But not a Golf. Sounds like a Golf?
So your example is totally irrelevant ?

The VW marketing men have it so easy.

nickfrog

21,244 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Riggers said:
To summarise: VWs feel more composed
100% placebo. Funny what you can do with varying levels of engineered NVH.

Limpet

6,331 posts

162 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Nice car. Never worth £31k though.

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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nickfrog said:
100% placebo. Funny what you can do with varying levels of engineered NVH.
NVH is to do with refinement, not handling. smile. But can we agree to disagree on the placebo bit?

miniandy

1,512 posts

238 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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nickfrog said:
So your example is totally irrelevant ?

The VW marketing men have it so easy.
No - it's all in context and I explained it to you when you quoted me earlier.

ArosaMike

4,220 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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NEWSFLASH: PH COMMUNITY 'DENIES GOLF GTI IS A GREAT CAR DESPITE OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY' SHOCKER!

Also inside: 'BMW E46 M3 Buying Guide - Just what to expect when your Vanos dies 1 month after your bought it for the same price as a new Golf GTI', and 'Ask the experts - How to form detailed opinions based on hearsay, a test drive of a 'slightly similar car 10 years ago' and 'what that bloke said on another thread 6 months ago'.

Next month - 'Yet more hatred an vitreol bestowed on anyone mentioning they like VW Golfs', 'How to sell your E46 M3 and buy a Ferrari F355' and 'How to give the impression you've got an interesting car when really you've got a P reg Citroen Xantia'.

Riggers

1,859 posts

179 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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ArosaMike said:
funny stuff
Have a rofl!

mooseracer

1,911 posts

171 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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nickfrog said:
100% placebo. Funny what you can do with varying levels of engineered NVH.
If you're saying the VW and the Octavia have identical chassis, steering rack and dampers then you're wrong I'm afraid.

MikeGTi

2,507 posts

202 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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ArosaMike said:
Truth
I like.

Have a hehe

DLovett

329 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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You think £31,000 is too much for a Golf?

In my country, a regular GTi with a DSG box costs £55,621.

Garlick

40,601 posts

241 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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Riggers, I can't believe your car is £40,000!

My word.

kambites

67,618 posts

222 months

Wednesday 18th January 2012
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mooseracer said:
nickfrog said:
100% placebo. Funny what you can do with varying levels of engineered NVH.
If you're saying the VW and the Octavia have identical chassis, steering rack and dampers then you're wrong I'm afraid.
Same steering rack and power steering system; same chassis pick-up points and wishbones/suspension linkages/struts/whatever; same hubs; same electronic driver aids;... the only difference is in the damper and spring rates as far as I know? And of course the weight distribution of the car that sits on top of it all.

Oh and possibly the wheel weights, which in my experience make the single biggest difference.