What car for £30k ?

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Cactussed

5,292 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I did that tour. Epic.
The DB9 blew its gearbox.
3 porches all had issues of one sort or another.

All the ferraris (my 355 included) were totally fine (financiall ruinous fuel bills aside).


V8KSN

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4,711 posts

184 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Cactussed said:
I did that tour. Epic.
The DB9 blew its gearbox.
3 porches all had issues of one sort or another.

All the ferraris (my 355 included) were totally fine (financiall ruinous fuel bills aside).
Oh man! I'm paranoid as it is!!!!

Anymore of this talk and i'll end up taking a Toyota Corolla! eek

As you have been on this tour already, what would you suggest I take?

Also, were the problems the Porsche's encountered terminal? By that I mean, did they have to leave the tour? Were they the 996 shape or the newer 997?

Edited by V8KSN on Monday 30th January 09:33

Cactussed

5,292 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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They weren't terminal.
eg - one of them got a rock through the front rad. Luckily, it was near Brescia which had a Porsche dealership, so it got fixed.

Realistically, any car shuld be fine and any car could be trouble. I'd be highly dubious of buying something and then taking it on tour without having run it for a while and sorted out any issues it may have.

So your question should be:

How long before going on a tour should you buy a car and run it to sort any niggles.

Cactussed

5,292 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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ETA - I'd go for something which you are happy to throw around a bit.

On that tour, the motorway way bits aside, I personally think you'd have a LOT more fun in this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3428578.htm
than this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3586697.htm

In fact, I'd almost guarantee it.

versus

612 posts

148 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Cactussed said:
ETA - I'd go for something which you are happy to throw around a bit.

On that tour, the motorway way bits aside, I personally think you'd have a LOT more fun in this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3428578.htm
than this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3586697.htm

In fact, I'd almost guarantee it.
are you mental?

V8KSN

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4,711 posts

184 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Cactussed said:
ETA - I'd go for something which you are happy to throw around a bit.

On that tour, the motorway way bits aside, I personally think you'd have a LOT more fun in this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3428578.htm
than this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3586697.htm

In fact, I'd almost guarantee it.
Should you change your login name to concussed? hehe

Joking aside, I dont think I could see myself buying a 1989 MR2 specifically for this run!

Wadeski

8,158 posts

213 months

versus

612 posts

148 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Cayman S would be nice. Also a Z4 s35i might be good.

Cactussed

5,292 posts

213 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I'm only speaking from having done the tour and owned or driven a few of the cars in question.

Maybe the MR2 is an extreme example, however in terms of driving fun, I'll stand by it vs the M6.

A lot of the roads on the tour are small and winding, ergo you want something nimble which you can throw around a bit. A powerful barge is going to be great for the motorway but otherwise, not really what you're after. Just trust me on this one.

I get that you want to take something with some class / prestige.

I'd be aiming for:
355 or 348
Z3M or Z4M
996 GT3 (or some other variety of 2WD pork)
Some form of elise or exige variant

Just my 2c.







V8KSN

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Monday 30th January 2012
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Cactussed said:
A lot of the roads on the tour are small and winding, ergo you want something nimble which you can throw around a bit. A powerful barge is going to be great for the motorway but otherwise, not really what you're after. Just trust me on this one.
I know what you mean about the small roads, I have seen a few video clips from previous years on the tour. I deally I'd like an Exige on the twisties and a Lexus to get there biggrin

Currently, the following are on the list (in order of priority)

Porsche 997 Carrera S (always wanted one)
Porsche Cayman S (probably does everything the 997 does but cheaper)
BMW Z4 M Coupe (highly rated as a drivers car)

BAKS42

200 posts

169 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Would love to take my z4m Coupe on a tour like this but think its more set up for the track and would much prefer the convertible for a gt!

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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V8KSN said:
..BMW Z4 M Coupe (highly rated as a drivers car)
Good choice, and the most affordable.

RizzoTheRat

25,167 posts

192 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Personally I'd go for a transit van with a Hypermotard or 990sm in the back.

Having done a similar trip in the summer with some mates on the bikes I'd agree with the comments above about wanting something small and nimble, the best Alpine roads are really tight and twisty and its got to be worth sacrificing a few creature comforts on the boring motorway bits in favour of more fun on the twisties.

Alternatively plan your own route and avoid the motorways rather than paying someone else a fortune to sort out an itinary, but I guess part of the point is going on a trip with a load of like minded individuals.

Zippee

13,466 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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versus said:
Cactussed said:
ETA - I'd go for something which you are happy to throw around a bit.

On that tour, the motorway way bits aside, I personally think you'd have a LOT more fun in this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3428578.htm
than this
http://pistonheads.com/sales/3586697.htm

In fact, I'd almost guarantee it.
are you mental?
He speaks sense (of sorts) as the M6 is too big to fully enjoy the twisties. Of course, if your thrill is going hell for leather on the boring, straight autoroutes then fill yer boots with the M6.
On the twisties you need something quick but small and nimble. A Caterham for example would be perfect but not good on the longer bits. Personally I'd try and find a good Boxster if you want roof down fun or a 968CS for something a little older.
Basically you want chuckable RWD, roof down (ideally), comfy for those long stretches and light but powerful (Alpine and Millau veteran)

V8KSN

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Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Zippee said:
He speaks sense (of sorts) as the M6 is too big to fully enjoy the twisties. Of course, if your thrill is going hell for leather on the boring, straight autoroutes then fill yer boots with the M6.
Never considered the M6 as aesthetically it does not appeal to me at all!

I think a Cayman S would sensibly meet all the requirements but I know what I am like and I would always wish i'd bought the 911...........think my mind is set on the 997 shape 911 Carrera S driving

Big enough to be comfy on the autoroutes, quick enough to thrill and nimble enough on the twisties.

Cactussed

5,292 posts

213 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Or grow some real gonads like Zippee and take your TVR T350 on tour...
Which inciddntally performed faultlessly if I recall?

Zippee

13,466 posts

234 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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V8KSN said:
Big enough to be comfy on the autoroutes, quick enough to thrill and nimble enough on the twisties.
Thats exactly the ingredients you need - Enjoy though, they're great tours and the roads in that area of Europe are outstanding.

V8KSN

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Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Cactussed said:
Or grow some real gonads like Zippee and take your TVR T350 on tour...
Which inciddntally performed faultlessly if I recall?
I dont have big enough balls to BUY one nevermind take one on a 2500 mile jaunt hehe

DO love them though, the sound alone is enough to justify the price!

blueg33

35,922 posts

224 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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I take my Tuscan on tour of France and Europe, 2500 plus miles. No problems just a big grin smile