RE: SOTW: Citroen CX Croisette

RE: SOTW: Citroen CX Croisette

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Gizmo!

18,150 posts

209 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Johnboy Mac said:
CGAT said:
I'll stick to my version of these sheds smile











Well done Mr.C Gat. It ain't to my taste (which is neither here nor there), no denying it's far, far more interesting that some other loved & modded older cars about. Respect and well done again.
clap

Horrible colour wink but well done..

CGAT

12 posts

162 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Gizmo! said:
clap

Horrible colour wink but well done..
which one? smile depends on the lighting what colours show. It has been like this 12 years.






















DaveShark

414 posts

187 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Love the CX, a great shed (if you can find one these days!). My dad has had 4 or 5 over the years..

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I've had BX's, GSA's and XM's but the CX is still my fav Citroen. More useable than a DS or SM.

Dangermouse78

120 posts

173 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Dont forget that Andy Saunders created this rather awesome looking CX!!!

carinaman

21,298 posts

172 months

Sunday 29th January 2012
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Kitchski said:
Early Xantias sink like most hydropneumatically suspended Cits, but anything from late 1994 onwards had what was called "anti-sink" which was brought in to satisfy those who didn't like the suspension as they'd have to wait for it to rise before setting off, wasting precious seconds.
It was basically a reserve accumulator sphere on the axle (only using a female thread - the only sphere that ever did) which stored pressure while the engine was off (and therefore had no high pressure pump spinning).

You can still deck a Xantia manually though, as you can with all hydropneumatic Citroens using the height conrol lever or buttons. It's just that with a car with anti-sink, the HP pump needs to be running to allow the pressure switch to release the pressure in the anti-sink sphere, whereas in something like a BX you just flick the lever and the car hisses before slumping on the floor.
Thank you for the clarification Kitchski! smile

Ftumpch

188 posts

158 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Now this is what classic cars are all about - the sense of achievement derived from coaxing an obsolete old barge down the road under its own power is hard to beat. Two thumbs! clap

dapprman

2,323 posts

267 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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dapprman said:
Going to have to pop outside and try it on my C6. I half expect it to rise back up once I kill the ignition though.
Right, checked this out when I went to fill up with petrol. The car stays down but i think there's a large enough gap to get the top of the clamp in. Ah well.

hilarystone

32 posts

147 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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I've run CX Turbo diesel Safaris over 400,000 miles and the last 18 years and they have been extremely reliable - I have never needed recovery... They are brilliant long distance vehicles capable of carrying 3/4s ton without flinching and have on quite a number of occasions driven over 700 miles in a day and on two occasions over 1200 miles. All the time returning between 30 and 40 mpg and capable of more than 100mph...

My latest one:


tombar

476 posts

209 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Dangermouse78 said:


Dont forget that Andy Saunders created this rather awesome looking CX!!!
Thanks for reminding me about that! I love Andy Saunders' work and this is my favourite of his - truly beautiful (Although his Volvo Amazon low-rider was something else too!). Wonder where it is now?

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

178 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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hilarystone said:
I've run CX Turbo diesel Safaris over 400,000 miles and the last 18 years and they have been extremely reliable - I have never needed recovery... They are brilliant long distance vehicles capable of carrying 3/4s ton without flinching and have on quite a number of occasions driven over 700 miles in a day and on two occasions over 1200 miles. All the time returning between 30 and 40 mpg and capable of more than 100mph...

My latest one:

More info & details required, if you would please.

hiscocks

322 posts

183 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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dapprman said:
soad said:
Gorbyrev said:
I am pretty sure that once the hydropneumatic suspension is lowered right down, you can't wheelclamp a CX or for that matter a BX.
Interesting, never gave that a thought.
Going to have to pop outside and try it on my C6. I half expect it to rise back up once I kill the ignition though.
I used to park my Xantia wherever I liked at University because I lowered it down and they couldn't clamp it. There was some ruling to say they weren't allowed to issue tickets on campus but clamped anyone parking in the wrong place fiercely. Once I came back to my car which was parked right below the main building like a museum piece to find it was surrounded by traffic cones!! I felt a little sorry for the frustrated clamper man who couldn't think of anything else to do. Obviously I parked there every day from then on and kept a couple of the cones for wearing on my head as is expected of students.

Now I am slightly more grown up and I park my C6 semi responsibly at least, but most spaces around here aren't long enough and I can't get into the multi story car parks in High Wycombe or Reading (actually I can get in but not out of anything but the top levels on them because of the stupidly wide kerbs they employ next to the up ramp...)

Edited by hiscocks on Monday 30th January 15:26

rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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hilarystone said:
I've run CX Turbo diesel Safaris over 400,000 miles and the last 18 years and they have been extremely reliable - I have never needed recovery... They are brilliant long distance vehicles capable of carrying 3/4s ton without flinching and have on quite a number of occasions driven over 700 miles in a day and on two occasions over 1200 miles. All the time returning between 30 and 40 mpg and capable of more than 100mph...

My latest one:

That is lovely. I used to have a 2400 Safari years ago. The electrics finally pissed me off though. Didn't the diesels suffer from porous blocks at one time or was that only a bad batch? I'd be tempted by a nice one at a decent price.

hilarystone

32 posts

147 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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Some series 2 Turbo diesels suffered from porous blocks when they were new but porous block problems were all sorted on these by 15 years ago.

I bought my first CX safari series 2 Turbo diesel in March 1994 - it had been horribly abused and not serviced but I took it from 150,000 miles to 283,000 miles before it was pensioned off. In that time it had a new clutch and head/head gasket were the most serious repairs. The lesson learnt from the head/head gasket replacement was to be extremely careful not to let the coolant level drop too much. The water pump on these engines is quite high up and if the coolant level drops below the level of the water pump you get an an air block and this results in damaged head etc if the engine isn't smartly switched off...

Clutches last in excess of 100,000 miles with me - they need to - the engine and gearbox has to come out and that's 18 hours work... And the gearboxes are very strong. Biggest problems are rust and the electrics which are not brilliant.

CGAT

12 posts

162 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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hilarystone said:
Clutches last in excess of 100,000 miles with me - they need to - the engine and gearbox has to come out and that's 18 hours work...
less than 8 if you don't hang about and thats working on my back wink

few more hours to clean the gearbox though.... 40 hours here







rovermorris999

5,202 posts

189 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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CGAT said:
less than 8 if you don't hang about and thats working on my back wink

few more hours to clean the gearbox though.... 40 hours here




Beautiful! Much respect.

bencollins

3,517 posts

205 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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CGAT said:
great modified car, awesome!

hiscocks

322 posts

183 months

Monday 30th January 2012
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CGAT said:
seriously lolled at this pic. Bungle just staring at the roof lol.

Knightmorph

38 posts

210 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Think about the rarity of the latest Citroen C6....there are currently 9 Ferrari F40's and 30 Carrera GT's for sale on PH classified....but only 5 citroen C6's.....of course that statistic is very different if you visit a French car portal where there are tons of C6's.....but still it appears a Citroen C6 is more rare than a 1980's super car!!!!

Wild Rumpus

375 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Black S2K said:
That'd be the centre-point steering geometry, zero camber, zero caster suspension and DIRAVI steering.

Unfortunately, Citroen today has forgotten everything it once knew.
Yep, Maikonics own car had up to a claimed 450bhp and was still very driveable.

CGAT

12 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st January 2012
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Mines a Miakonics car smile or was, it's progressed a little since then and back down again regards power

1986 series 2 Citroen CX GTI Turbo (1996 Maikonics conversion)
Maikonics were at the time Thee CX tuners offering various stages of tuning.
This car had most things from the catalogue.
Below is how it is today including a rebuild of the tired engine in 2007
2500 cc
M25 662 Citroen OE engine
Balanced bottom end
very lightened t2 flywheel
Forged JE pistons and Total seal piston rings
Re profiled standard cam replacing the wild Maikonics version
Gas flowed and ported head reshaped valves
Remote oil filter and 19 row oil cooler
Maikonics flywheel with new Helix clutch
8 injector twin airflow meter fuelling
reworked throttle body
Twin green cone air filters
Bosch 044 fuel pumps
FSE Bullet fuel filters
Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
Atech Stainless fuel hose and alloy fittings
RS500 intercooler
T/4 hybrid Garret turbo (Universal Turbo)
HKS SSQV bov
Samco hoses air and water
Powerflow Stainless exhaust
MSD 6212 ignition, coil and leads (has launch control )
NGK B9HV plugs
Citroen CX Diesel T2 gearbox this was brand new in 2000
Rose jointed gear selectors
Dotz hanzo 17 inch wheels Z rated 235 40 17 tyres (new 2008)
The suspension has up rated spheres fitted to stiffen the car up
The bodywork had a bare metal paint job in 2000 using Du Pont chromalusion paint.
Direct port Wizard of Nos nitrous system.
Probably some other stuff I’ve forgotten.
but it does go rather well for and old Citroen