Hot Hatch for £2000 - £3000
Discussion
Robb F said:
limjamrace said:
egomeister said:
How is that a hot hatch?? Did it catch fire or something?
Have you owned or driven one?I thought we were talking about 1.4 ish engine capacity and 45 mpg.
Hot hatch it is...Pulls like a train!
Seriously though, what about something like a Panda 100hp or a Suzuki Ignis Sport - they should both be nippy and still achieve your mpg targets.
Robb F said:
68bhp
I don't go by magic figures in a magazine but drivability.I think that 68bhp if thats what it is comes in at around 3000rpm!
In most cases 40-70 mph accel is what you need ,not boy racer b/s!
Needless to say thats for another thread..But my idea of a hot hatch is not for road use but say track days and competition!!
I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
limjamrace said:
Robb F said:
68bhp
I don't go by magic figures in a magazine but drivability.I think that 68bhp if thats what it is comes in at around 3000rpm!
In most cases 40-70 mph accel is what you need ,not boy racer b/s!
Needless to say thats for another thread..But my idea of a hot hatch is not for road use but say track days and competition!!
I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
But it's not hot. 100% hatch though.
limjamrace said:
Needless to say thats for another thread..But my idea of a hot hatch is not for road use but say track days and competition!!
I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
Shame that's not what everyone else on the planets definition of a hot hatch is though, is it?I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
I'm guessing you have a 1.4 TDCi Fiesta and that's the reason for bigging it up? I'm sorry, but a diesel engined fiesta with 0-60 over 14 seconds, is not a hot hatch, in fact it's so far from hot, it's stone cold dead.
If you want 35-40mpg and awesome fun, you need the modern 205gti, ie the clio 1*2. They are bloody brilliant!!
CTR will do 30mpg, but not much more, & you'll have to drive like a saint.
1.8T VAG mobile will be about as much fun as aids. Unless you get excited about a distinct lack of steering feel.
I was supposed to get rid of my Trophy when i bought the M3, but 4 months later and i still cant bring myself to get rid of it ...
CTR will do 30mpg, but not much more, & you'll have to drive like a saint.
1.8T VAG mobile will be about as much fun as aids. Unless you get excited about a distinct lack of steering feel.
I was supposed to get rid of my Trophy when i bought the M3, but 4 months later and i still cant bring myself to get rid of it ...
KingNothing said:
Shame that's not what everyone else on the planets definition of a hot hatch is though, is it?
I'm guessing you have a 1.4 TDCi Fiesta and that's the reason for bigging it up? I'm sorry, but a diesel engined fiesta with 0-60 over 14 seconds, is not a hot hatch, in fact it's so far from hot, it's stone cold dead.
Like i said ...Has anyone owned one..Are we talking 1.4 ish engines..Does figures in a magazine mean that to you!I'm guessing you have a 1.4 TDCi Fiesta and that's the reason for bigging it up? I'm sorry, but a diesel engined fiesta with 0-60 over 14 seconds, is not a hot hatch, in fact it's so far from hot, it's stone cold dead.
limjamrace said:
I don't go by magic figures in a magazine but drivability.
I think that 68bhp if thats what it is comes in at around 3000rpm!
In most cases 40-70 mph accel is what you need ,not boy racer b/s!
Needless to say thats for another thread..But my idea of a hot hatch is not for road use but say track days and competition!!
I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
I'm sorry but that's ridiculous.I think that 68bhp if thats what it is comes in at around 3000rpm!
In most cases 40-70 mph accel is what you need ,not boy racer b/s!
Needless to say thats for another thread..But my idea of a hot hatch is not for road use but say track days and competition!!
I'd expect the fuel tank to get me through the day without having to worry about fuel consumption though.
As for the OP the 172s are good, I drove a mate's. How about a corrado? (not that I'm biased or anything)
limjamrace said:
Like i said ...Has anyone owned one..Are we talking 1.4 ish engines..Does figures in a magazine mean that to you!
New Fabia vRS (or Polo GTI etc.) is a 1.4 and does 0-60 in 7.3, so it destroys your Fiesta. But that doesn't mean it's relevant does it? The OP asked for a HOT HATCH from £2000-3000. Using your logic I suggest he buys a dog.Warning very non-PH opinion:
IMO the easiest way to get a bit of poke AND 40mpg is from a VAG TDI in 130/150bhp form (or similar).
Most of the other cars mentioned would struggle to do 30mpg even driven carefully, what is the point in buying a CTR and then driving it like a granny? - I get 44mpg average from my derv as my right foot is made of lead, anyone else who drives it can get it in the 50s!
Downside of something like a Ibiza/Leon/VRS/etc is you would be looking at a high miler for that budget..... also they are 'warm' rather than 'hot', but the performance is usable without thrashing the arse off em.
IMO the easiest way to get a bit of poke AND 40mpg is from a VAG TDI in 130/150bhp form (or similar).
Most of the other cars mentioned would struggle to do 30mpg even driven carefully, what is the point in buying a CTR and then driving it like a granny? - I get 44mpg average from my derv as my right foot is made of lead, anyone else who drives it can get it in the 50s!
Downside of something like a Ibiza/Leon/VRS/etc is you would be looking at a high miler for that budget..... also they are 'warm' rather than 'hot', but the performance is usable without thrashing the arse off em.
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