RE: Subaru TA340C: the hot Scooby lives!
Discussion
GC8 said:
A highly speculative price. Id want to spend a lot of time researching number 388 before buying it at any reasonable price, too...
You worried me then, My RB5 (also chassis 388) is for sale, but I haven't put the ad up yet! Then it clicked we were on about the 22b!There is a certain magic to them, as said about the RB5, I own a pretty standard WR sport model (currently sorned, waiting for me to write the for sale ad, insurance as a weekend toy with me being 23 is just ridiculous...) and it feels like an event every time you go out in it, you can slink round roundabouts at seemingly any speed, and the scope for overtaking is sublime, you've got time to ponder, calculate the MPG you'd do whilst nailing it and still work out if you want to spend the fuel before you go... However, not driven any newer Subaru than mine so can't comment on this compared to the classic.
Its a real shame that the global economy has done away with rally specials like my RB5, Evo 6's, Escort cosworths etc... you really feel like you have a rally car sat in your garage!
Oh and even with wide ass Eagle F1's I never had any trouble in the snow, they're awesome fun... RWD-esque antics when you want to play, sensible 4wd when you need it, which I do, the works focus is stuck on a slight incline, should have got snow socks. (about 200kgs of tools in the boot is NOT helping)
Edited by Mr.Jimbo on Saturday 4th February 20:57
As much as I love Subarus, miss my Hawkeye and very much enjoyed my test drive in a new STI at Cross Roads, you would have to be sleeping in a rubber-lined house to put 40k on one of these. Great car but it's not worth paying 10k over the cost of a new one. A pre-reg one can be had for under 30k with the 320 upgrades and even that is way too much.
The Yen is killing them.
The Yen is killing them.
MrRA said:
Couldn't agree more. I've owned a Spec C Type-RA and a Spec C Type RA-R. Both fantastic cars, essentially a Grp N car with a tax disc. Personally, if I was going to enter Scoob ownership again and spend this sort of money, I would ask Iain to import one of the factory STI specials, like the recently released S206. Far more exclusivity.
You still alive!! ?Where have you been..you don't post much on SN still got the RA-R?
Agree re S206 but your looking at £50k+
BILL PAYER said:
GravelBen said:
Looking at your car history thats effin hilarious!
You're not a scooby owner now are you, and clearly you didn't like yours much at all, in which case it begs the question.....Why did you bother posting here?
Clearly your comment to the rest of us that love our scoobs is actually quite funny so these replies shouldn't be a surprise however, they are clearly not to your taste and baring in mind there are lots of other threads you can have a troll on....
If you want a proper classic Impreza in the right colour, buy mine!!
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Edited by dfh81 on Sunday 5th February 12:57
Edited by dfh81 on Sunday 5th February 13:07
ScoobieWRX said:
Then why do you bother putting up your car history in your profile? So everyone can see of course therefore it must be of some concern to you that you let the world know what you've owned.
You're not a scooby owner now are you, and clearly you didn't like yours much at all, in which case it begs the question.....Why did you bother posting here?
Clearly your comment to the rest of us that love our scoobs is actually quite funny so these replies shouldn't be a surprise however, they are clearly not to your taste and baring in mind there are lots of other threads you can have a troll on....
If heavy pedals, steering and a notchy gear change are your thing then i have no problem with that,add to that brakes that have zero feedback ans a interior that rattles like a bucket of nails then your most welcome.You're not a scooby owner now are you, and clearly you didn't like yours much at all, in which case it begs the question.....Why did you bother posting here?
Clearly your comment to the rest of us that love our scoobs is actually quite funny so these replies shouldn't be a surprise however, they are clearly not to your taste and baring in mind there are lots of other threads you can have a troll on....
BILL PAYER said:
ScoobieWRX said:
Then why do you bother putting up your car history in your profile? So everyone can see of course therefore it must be of some concern to you that you let the world know what you've owned.
You're not a scooby owner now are you, and clearly you didn't like yours much at all, in which case it begs the question.....Why did you bother posting here?
Clearly your comment to the rest of us that love our scoobs is actually quite funny so these replies shouldn't be a surprise however, they are clearly not to your taste and baring in mind there are lots of other threads you can have a troll on....
If heavy pedals, steering and a notchy gear change are your thing then i have no problem with that,add to that brakes that have zero feedback ans a interior that rattles like a bucket of nails then your most welcome.You're not a scooby owner now are you, and clearly you didn't like yours much at all, in which case it begs the question.....Why did you bother posting here?
Clearly your comment to the rest of us that love our scoobs is actually quite funny so these replies shouldn't be a surprise however, they are clearly not to your taste and baring in mind there are lots of other threads you can have a troll on....
The clutch pedal after a few hundred miles from brand new might firm up a bit but still pretty good baring in mind it's a 4x4.
The gear change in a newage 5-spd is lovely and smooth, it's the 6spd that's notchy but then again there aren't many standard gearboxes about that will take 600ft/lb torque.
Zero feedback brakes....you really are having a larf!! 5spd/6spd brakes are fine and there's plenty of feedback. With the right pads and a set of braided brake hoses fitted they work really well.
You're absolutely right about the interior but i didn't buy it for the cheap and nasty rattly interior or exterior looks only a mother could love. It's what the car does and how it goes about doing it out of the box that turned me on to Subaru.
What a Subaru is all about is clearly completely lost on you.
Subaru are at their best and most amazing when traveling at eye popping speeds down the crappiest twistiest UK B-roads you can find. That's when they come alive. The amount of available grip at those speeds is nothing short of physics defying.
Going back through your car history it is a wonder you ever even bothered looking at a Subaru. Some of the cars you've had also had cheap and nasty rattly interiors, terrible brakes, awful build quality and are down right slow even though they may be fun when pushed past their limits at low speeds, mind you so is a supermarket trolley, but you still bought them.
The Subaru is not a slow speed, arse end out at the roundabout or donuts at a local empty car park type car. I can do all that nonsense in any oldskool RWD you've owned at 20mph on a wet day. That kind of tomfoolery might be a laugh for 5 mins but it won't make your sphincter really twitch!!
ScoobieWRX said:
The only thing heavy in my car has always been me.
The clutch pedal after a few hundred miles from brand new might firm up a bit but still pretty good baring in mind it's a 4x4.
The gear change in a newage 5-spd is lovely and smooth, it's the 6spd that's notchy but then again there aren't many standard gearboxes about that will take 600ft/lb torque.
Zero feedback brakes....you really are having a larf!! 5spd/6spd brakes are fine and there's plenty of feedback. With the right pads and a set of braided brake hoses fitted they work really well.
You're absolutely right about the interior but i didn't buy it for the cheap and nasty rattly interior or exterior looks only a mother could love. It's what the car does and how it goes about doing it out of the box that turned me on to Subaru.
What a Subaru is all about is clearly completely lost on you.
Subaru are at their best and most amazing when traveling at eye popping speeds down the crappiest twistiest UK B-roads you can find. That's when they come alive. The amount of available grip at those speeds is nothing short of physics defying.
Going back through your car history it is a wonder you ever even bothered looking at a Subaru. Some of the cars you've had also had cheap and nasty rattly interiors, terrible brakes, awful build quality and are down right slow even though they may be fun when pushed past their limits at low speeds, mind you so is a supermarket trolley, but you still bought them.
The Subaru is not a slow speed, arse end out at the roundabout or donuts at a local empty car park type car. I can do all that nonsense in any oldskool RWD you've owned at 20mph on a wet day. That kind of tomfoolery might be a laugh for 5 mins but it won't make your sphincter really twitch!!
I will agree that grip is a Subaru strong point and yes some of the Vauxhalls ive owned also rattled alot, as for as for spinning around ass out in car parks i grew out of that as a teen over 30 years ago and lets be fair sometimes you buy a car simply as cheap A to B transport so no need for it to be fast or glamourousThe clutch pedal after a few hundred miles from brand new might firm up a bit but still pretty good baring in mind it's a 4x4.
The gear change in a newage 5-spd is lovely and smooth, it's the 6spd that's notchy but then again there aren't many standard gearboxes about that will take 600ft/lb torque.
Zero feedback brakes....you really are having a larf!! 5spd/6spd brakes are fine and there's plenty of feedback. With the right pads and a set of braided brake hoses fitted they work really well.
You're absolutely right about the interior but i didn't buy it for the cheap and nasty rattly interior or exterior looks only a mother could love. It's what the car does and how it goes about doing it out of the box that turned me on to Subaru.
What a Subaru is all about is clearly completely lost on you.
Subaru are at their best and most amazing when traveling at eye popping speeds down the crappiest twistiest UK B-roads you can find. That's when they come alive. The amount of available grip at those speeds is nothing short of physics defying.
Going back through your car history it is a wonder you ever even bothered looking at a Subaru. Some of the cars you've had also had cheap and nasty rattly interiors, terrible brakes, awful build quality and are down right slow even though they may be fun when pushed past their limits at low speeds, mind you so is a supermarket trolley, but you still bought them.
The Subaru is not a slow speed, arse end out at the roundabout or donuts at a local empty car park type car. I can do all that nonsense in any oldskool RWD you've owned at 20mph on a wet day. That kind of tomfoolery might be a laugh for 5 mins but it won't make your sphincter really twitch!!
BILL PAYER said:
I will agree that grip is a Subaru strong point and yes some of the Vauxhalls ive owned also rattled alot, as for as for spinning around ass out in car parks i grew out of that as a teen over 30 years ago and lets be fair sometimes you buy a car simply as cheap A to B transport so no need for it to be fast or glamourous
I certainly didn't buy my scoob as cheap A-B transport nor is it glamorous. If that's all you intended your scoob to be then that's fine too, we buy the same cars sometimes for lots of different reasons however, don't berate the car for being nothing like a shopping trolley.
If you wanted a fun car with grip, feel, and excitement at lower speeds why didn't you buy an MR2, MX5, Mini Cooper, Renault Clio etc...
There's nothing wrong with your old scoob, you simply bought the wrong car for your requirements!!
ScoobieWRX said:
I certainly didn't buy my scoob as cheap A-B transport nor is it glamorous.
If that's all you intended your scoob to be then that's fine too, we buy the same cars sometimes for lots of different reasons however, don't berate the car for being nothing like a shopping trolley.
If you wanted a fun car with grip, feel, and excitement at lower speeds why didn't you buy an MR2, MX5, Mini Cooper, Renault Clio etc...
There's nothing wrong with your old scoob, you simply bought the wrong car for your requirements!!
You have looked at my profile and as you see it has a pic of my ZX10R on it so im no stranger to speed its much faster than a scoob or any everyday car. i just feel that the scoob was working against me rather than with me most of the time at any speed. what i will say is any two machines of any kind of the same type can feel very different to drive so maybe mine was a bad oneIf that's all you intended your scoob to be then that's fine too, we buy the same cars sometimes for lots of different reasons however, don't berate the car for being nothing like a shopping trolley.
If you wanted a fun car with grip, feel, and excitement at lower speeds why didn't you buy an MR2, MX5, Mini Cooper, Renault Clio etc...
There's nothing wrong with your old scoob, you simply bought the wrong car for your requirements!!
Bill Payer there is nothing wrong with saying you didn't like your Impreza, fair play to you, they're not to everyones taste...I would not want to own a lot of 'popular' cars for my own reasons...like the BMW and Porsche earlier in this thread...just not my cup of tea. Sounds like your Impreza was in need of a darn good service though
So I think we all agree on a few things...good on Crossroads for being a petrolhead main dealer and modifying and trying to sell these cars, but good luck finding someone to buy one for £40K in the current market
The fact that the new Litchfield Type 20 is around £2K cheaper, has the same and/or better modifications and/or specs and still comes with a 3 year warranty must be stiff competition for them...
Let's just hope somebody buys them because we need these sorts of cars knocking about in the secondhand car market in a few years time...
As someone said earlier the Yen exchange rate is killing these cars, should be £5-10K cheaper to make sense...
So I think we all agree on a few things...good on Crossroads for being a petrolhead main dealer and modifying and trying to sell these cars, but good luck finding someone to buy one for £40K in the current market
The fact that the new Litchfield Type 20 is around £2K cheaper, has the same and/or better modifications and/or specs and still comes with a 3 year warranty must be stiff competition for them...
Let's just hope somebody buys them because we need these sorts of cars knocking about in the secondhand car market in a few years time...
As someone said earlier the Yen exchange rate is killing these cars, should be £5-10K cheaper to make sense...
Edited by Dave_STI on Monday 6th February 01:17
Dave_STI said:
Oh dear, here we go again...
Blah blah you could buy a secondhand Euro Fighter for that money instead...
Blah Blah they've all got chocolate pistons
Blah blah the classic Impreza is THE ONLY Impreza
Blah Blah it looks ugly...
Blah Blah Subaru have lost it...
I own one and can tell you all the above are untrue (inc. the chocolate pistons if you have it mapped properly). I've owned an RB5, Bugeye STI, Blobeye STi, Hawkeye STI and the current STI. The current STI is as good as any of them after a few performance modifications...
Shut it STI you fan boy. Blah blah you could buy a secondhand Euro Fighter for that money instead...
Blah Blah they've all got chocolate pistons
Blah blah the classic Impreza is THE ONLY Impreza
Blah Blah it looks ugly...
Blah Blah Subaru have lost it...
I own one and can tell you all the above are untrue (inc. the chocolate pistons if you have it mapped properly). I've owned an RB5, Bugeye STI, Blobeye STi, Hawkeye STI and the current STI. The current STI is as good as any of them after a few performance modifications...
Only joking of course! Dude you are a scuby lover so everything you say is very one sided, its like saying Man U are better then Arsenal when we know its not true.
However people do miss the point of these cars, if I had the space to park 5-6 cars I would have one of these as my b road killer.
Edited by SirVandru on Monday 6th February 01:50
I hope Subaru maintain a high performance impreza in the line up going forward, but at sales levels that doesn't define the brand ( I am guessing that might be the IM plan)
BRZ and XV inbound, means it is a defining year for Subaru in the UK and both look like good cars with more mainstream appeal. The new impreza will also be better than the current car by some margin. Bonnet scoops increasingly the exception rather than the norm, I note.
Could a hot impreza justify an almost £40k price tag; I reckon so, if executed correctly.
Always felt the Cosworth was just a bit chintzy ( but perhaps a good buy used ), and I'm not sure about dealer 'specials' like the Crossraods item, but surely a factory car with 22b type cache would be very desirable, or a return to something a bit more subtle and stealthy for the STI. Low numbers a must.
BRZ and XV inbound, means it is a defining year for Subaru in the UK and both look like good cars with more mainstream appeal. The new impreza will also be better than the current car by some margin. Bonnet scoops increasingly the exception rather than the norm, I note.
Could a hot impreza justify an almost £40k price tag; I reckon so, if executed correctly.
Always felt the Cosworth was just a bit chintzy ( but perhaps a good buy used ), and I'm not sure about dealer 'specials' like the Crossraods item, but surely a factory car with 22b type cache would be very desirable, or a return to something a bit more subtle and stealthy for the STI. Low numbers a must.
Max_Torque said:
Richard330s said:
great value for a 59 plate from new for £26.5k.
Go on then, what's it worth now ??? 
king investment. if you are worried about future value then you would never buy a car. If you are worried about money so much then buy a push bike and save the money for retirement.
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